WACA Team of the Century

In the spirit of AR’s excellent threads on WAFL/VFL best teams, this has just popped up on TheWest online, purporting to be the ultimate team to represent WA cricket.

I pretty much agree with it, but would be interested in the thoughts of OzF’s cricket gurus.

Graeme Wood

Justin Langer

Shaun Marsh

Kim Hughes (c)

Damien Martyn

Mike Hussey

Adam Gilchrist

Mitchell Johnson

Bruce Yardley

Graham McKenzie

Dennis Lillee

https://thewest.com.au/sport/cricket/modern-day-greats-added-as-we-revisit-western-australias-all-time-best-xi-ng-b881040363z

ps I suggest any comments not be tainted by any prejudices you may have against the author of TheWest article. :stuck_out_tongue:

pss please don’t pick 6 Midland Guildford players, as Keith Slater did for the Oz test team many years ago, in his column in the Sundry Times. :ohmy:

JS if it can include internationals that have played for Western Australia then I would suggest that Tony Lock should be selected instead of Yardley.

A couple of observations: Kim Hughes as captain is a deserved choice although if Lock is eligible to be selected I wold choose Lock.

Having a quick look at balls bowled by McKenzie and Johnson are interesting 60 matches (17,681 balls bowled) and 73 matches (16,001) respectively. (Source wikipedia so subject to verification).

One other observation is relevant. The first class careers of the modern player is so much longer than in previous eras. For example, if Hussey had played in the 1960s/1970s it is highly doubtful that he would have ever played for Australia because he most likely would have retired at an earlier age than the age he was when he was first selected for Australia.

Wicket-keeper basman-Rod Marsh.Tim Zoehrer.
Allrounders-Ken Macleay.Brendon Julian
Batsman-Craig Sergent,Bruce Laird,Rob Langer,Ryan Campbell, Mike Valetta,
Bowlers-Terry Aldermann,Wayne Clarke,Peter Capes.Mick Malone
Spinners -Tony Loch+Mann.B Yardly was a lot better batsman.
Strong squad missed plenty also.

Thanks for the thread Jack.

Great posts all: I am with Swan 42, I would add Lock and make him captain; I would bat Greg Shipperd at three; I would also add Terry Alderman. Barry Shepherd would be my 12th man.

excluded: Yardley, Johnson and Marsh

JS have picked my side based on their Test Cricket record.
*didnt include Mitch Johnson as he played more for QLD than WA
In batting order-

  1. Justin Langer- Tests-105, Runs-7696, Ave-45.27, 100s-23, 50s-30, HS-250
  2. Simon Katich- Tests-56, Runs-4188, Ave-45.03, 100s-10, 50s-25, HS-157…Wkts-21, Ave-30.23, BB-6/65
  3. Kim Hughes (C)- Tests-70, Runs-4415, Ave-37.41, 100s-9, 50s-22, HS-213
    4. Damien Martyn- Tests-67, Runs-4406, Ave-46.37, 100s-13, 50s-23, HS-165…Wkts-2, Ave-84.00, BB-1/0
    5. Mike Hussey- Tests-79, Runs-6235, Ave-51.52, 100s-19, 50s-29, HS-195…Wkts-7, Ave-43.71, BB-1/0
  4. Adam Gilchrist- Tests-96, Runs-5570, Ave-47.60, 100s-17, 50s-26, HS-204*
  5. Rod Marsh (WK)- Tests-96, Runs-3633, Ave-26.51, 100s-3, 50s-16, HS-132
  6. Dennis Lillee- Tests-70, Runs-905, Ave-13.71, 100s-0, 50s-1, HS-73*…Wkts-355, Ave-23.92, BB-7/83
  7. Graham McKenzie- Tests-60, Runs-945, Ave-12.27, 100s-0, 50s-2, HS-76…Wkts-246, Ave-29.78, BB-8/71
    10. Terry Alderman- Tests-41, Runs-203, Ave-6.54, 100s-0, 50s-0, HS-26*…Wkts-170, Ave-27.15, BB-6/47
  8. Bruce Reid- Tests-27, Runs-93, Ave-4.65, 100s-0, 50s-0, HS-13…Wkts-113, Ave-24.63, BB-7/51

You could also pick a side to include Moody and Simpson

Simpson
Langer
Katich – thanks Bease I forgot him
Hughes
Martyn
Moody
Gilchrist
Tony Lock – captain
Greame Mckenzie
Dennis Lilliee
Terry Alderman

In my humble opinion you can not exclude the two leading wicket takers in WACA history; in regards to Simpson, he is the best performed batsman.

In terms of qualification Simpson played 26 times for our state
Mitchell Johnson just 10 times.

JS have picked my side based on their Test Cricket record.
*didnt include Mitch Johnson as he played more for QLD than WA
In batting order-

  1. Justin Langer- Tests-105, Runs-7696, Ave-45.27, 100s-23, 50s-30, HS-250
  2. Simon Katich- Tests-56, Runs-4188, Ave-45.03, 100s-10, 50s-25, HS-157…Wkts-21, Ave-30.23, BB-6/65
  3. Kim Hughes (C)- Tests-70, Runs-4415, Ave-37.41, 100s-9, 50s-22, HS-213
    4. Damien Martyn- Tests-67, Runs-4406, Ave-46.37, 100s-13, 50s-23, HS-165…Wkts-2, Ave-84.00, BB-1/0
    5. Mike Hussey- Tests-79, Runs-6235, Ave-51.52, 100s-19, 50s-29, HS-195…Wkts-7, Ave-43.71, BB-1/0
  4. Adam Gilchrist- Tests-96, Runs-5570, Ave-47.60, 100s-17, 50s-26, HS-204*
  5. Rod Marsh (WK)- Tests-96, Runs-3633, Ave-26.51, 100s-3, 50s-16, HS-132
  6. Dennis Lillee- Tests-70, Runs-905, Ave-13.71, 100s-0, 50s-1, HS-73*…Wkts-355, Ave-23.92, BB-7/83
  7. Graham McKenzie- Tests-60, Runs-945, Ave-12.27, 100s-0, 50s-2, HS-76…Wkts-246, Ave-29.78, BB-8/71
    10. Terry Alderman- Tests-41, Runs-203, Ave-6.54, 100s-0, 50s-0, HS-26*…Wkts-170, Ave-27.15, BB-6/47
  8. Bruce Reid- Tests-27, Runs-93, Ave-4.65, 100s-0, 50s-0, HS-13…Wkts-113, Ave-24.63, BB-7/51
    [/quote]

BH as I indicated earlier it is difficult to equate the statistics of the modern era (say around 1990) and earlier times is that a lot of cricketers in earlier times retired much younger than they do now. For example, Garth McKenzie played his last test before he turned 30.

So in my opinion it is not comparing apples with apples.

one other point lads and lasses, be careful with stats. KJ Hughes averagged 42.00 WA in the Shield, where it counted, and only 37 in all first-class cricket. See the web site ’ List of Wetern Australian First-Class Cricketers’.

KJH was a hot \cold batsman Ark.On his day was as good to watch as any batsmen who have played the game.Vunrable early in his innings.Dean Jones was a similar type of batsman.

It is also reasonable to suggest these days there are very few Sheffield Shield matches that are played with full strength teams.

gtr: yep, he was easily the best player produced in the state; ststically, Langer averagged 51 in the Shield and full credit to him . On that basis he can be considerred our best by a little way too

The ball had to hit the middle of KJH bat early.Remember the quality of bowler he also faced.Mike Valetta would of been close to a 50 average.Remember a big double century he scored in a Shield Final v Victoria.

Ahh yes GTR & AR I can just vaguely remember when we used to regularly win the Sheffield Shield!!

so true – BH – I miss it. It has been partially made up for by WA winning in state football against all comers.

Ahh yes GTR & AR I can just vaguely remember when we used to regularly win the Sheffield Shield!!
[/quote]

That’s a future thread for on here BH.The decline of Wa Cricket.Off the top of my head 4 shields in the 70’s.4 SS in the 80’s..3 in the 90’s.Maby 1 this century.

We have won the Shield 15 times.
First win 1948-49 our second season.
Last Win 1998-99.
5 Sheffield Shields in the 1970’s and also 5 in the 1980’s.3 in the 1990’s.

When you consider that roughly half of WA’s Sheffield Shield matches were played at the WACA on pitches generally conducive to fast bowlers and less so for spin bowlers see the statistics of Lock and Lillee. Lock’s figure are almost the same as Lillee which show how brilliant a cricketer Lock was playing for WA.

Graham Anthony Richard LOCK (WA: 1962 – 1971)
74 matches
316 wickets, average 24.59
16 five-fors, 2 ten-wicket matches, 84 catches

Dennis Keith LILLEE (WA: 1969 – 1984)
76 matches
315 wickets, average 23.02
19 five-fors, 4 ten-wicket matches, 26 catches

Not so sure about Tony Lock.

He certainly has the stats, but was he the Muttiah Muralitharan of his day?

Although I guess you could ask the same question about Bruce Yardley.