and yes I realise that I am leaving myself open to the … but hey what is life without a bit sledging!
I think that EP should have an age cap on the reserves team and the league.
Perhaps 20 for the reserves and 22 for the league, excluding weagles players. What would happen to the players who want to go on with their career in the WAFL is that there is a draft of available players (set by the club not the WAFL or anyone else). A player nominates, gets draft into a subi etc and EP get $2k for the player. The gaining club gets a potential b grader player, no points for 3 years and no impact on their salary cap for 2 years. If a player nominates but EP decide they are a required player they can still be in the draft but the cost is now $4k, 1 point and part of the salary cap.
This way EP gets some control over their playing stock, the lack of experience is balanced out by the weagles and other clubs can pick up players that may fill their stocks. If a ‘drafted player’ is subsequently drafted into the AFL the gaining club gets 90% of the money unless they are drafted by the weagles.
seems fair to me but then it would wouldn’t! :whistle:
What’s wrong with just having an 11/11 split each week between AFL and locally produced players at EP and Peel. There might even be a few occasions when 11 AFL players aren’t available. But a max of 11 seems fair to both ideals.
You think so? where will this lot play next year then?
Bennel Brennan Brown Carter Colledge Cripps Dalziel Dick Hams Hutchings Lycett McGinnity McInnes Morton Newman Nicoski Sinclair Tunbridge & Wilson.
not much room for Smith Johnson Wulff Lee & co..
Eagles list is 44, not sure on Dockers..
even if they have 10 blokes a week injured there is 12 blokes available for WAFL and this week they only have 3 blokes on their injury list..
Is it the expectation that every WCE and Dockers player gets a league game with their respective host club every week if not selected for AFL duties regardless of form, return from injury, team setup OR can they relegated to the ressies? :unsure:
Just to be sure, make it 11/11 each week and any other Eagles listed players can play ressies for EP.
There were 15 Eagles that played WAFL on the weekend. McGinnity, Brown, Dalziell, Bennell, Nicoski, Colledge, Hams, Morton, Cripps, Lycett, Wilson, Embley, Ash Smith, McInnes, Carter
Not sure if Hutchings would have played WCE or WP as the Falcons had the bye.
Not sure what you mean, the responses are fairly positive, 11/11 etc. I just want to have a pathway for the development process at EP albeit limited for lots of reasons.
I thought a draft opportunity to another WAFL club in a formal manner might stop the ‘looting’ process that other clubs may indulge, would give access to some good players not the best but …
A lot will depend on the number of players EP can have on their list. I think 35-40 locals is a good number which should give you between 50-55 to choose from each week, depending on injuries.
anchor interesting stat from saturdays league game sd v ep
swans league 1 afl and 9 non zone players
swans reserves 1 afl player 4 non zone players
east perth league 4 afl players 3 non zone players
east perth reserves o afl 2 non zone players
east perth won both games.we have the least non zone players from all teams and at the moment the majority of players are from the local zone.the reserves which are second on the ladder are basically last years team with a few colts.because of next year we have concentarted on local talent.it is inline with what bronte and brian said that they would not look to non zone recruiting.already three or four debuts this year and finally bennell getting a go with kyanga and eades gone.it is going to be hard next year we may lose some players .we won’t be the only ones.apart from the sharks and tigers who have great recruiting areas most of the other clubs have at least a dozen or more non zone players who may rob a local junior a chance of progress.arthur bennell and chris franklin were never going to get a look in last year with the recruitment of kyanga and eades.with several guys leaving early this year both zone and non zone at least bennell,boyes and fraser have had a go and looked good.the problem with the last alignment was that east perth were able to recruit non zone players.the 4or 5 eagles who played were not stars.who ever remembers michael o’brien.
Does the 44 on AFL lists include rookies and those from other sporting or country backgrounds? And should EP make money from players wanting to leave for opportunities because there is no room within their club they have supposedly been developed for? I don’t think EP should. It’s one of the prices they should pay not the 7 clubs. Players wanting to leave could go into a draft points system based on experience of league, reserves or colts games with the 7 clubs limited to a number of players they can draft from EP or Peel. 11/11 sounds like the mark. The reserves could end up like a development squad anyway so there might not need to be an age limit etc as there won’t be many non regular league players hanging around you would think.
Some will say you are correct but why shouldn’t we recoup some of the development process, given that my suggestion is based on basic premise of development and the costs of that all clubs is enormous, there has to be a little fairness in the process for all concerned.
As for the idea that 11/11 is good, I don’t agree I would prefer 8 or at most 9 given that not all weagles deserve to play league and should come through the reserves, perhaps that is where the rookies play unless they mature aged. The reasoning for this is that one of the stengths of the WAFL draftees is that after the 18’s carnival most play league and Lee Matthews has repeatedly commented that he prefers to see players against men before drafting them
REMEMBER BENNETT COPPING HE PLAYED MOST OF THE FIRST YEAR IN THE RESERVES AND GOT A GAME TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR.WE WERE NOT A GOOD SIDE BUT HE DID GET A GAME BECAUSE HE WAS A DOCKER.MOST PROBABLY DESERVED TO PLAY RESERVES FOR THE WHOLE THREE YEARS.A GOOD EXAMPLE WHY IF YOU ARE DRAFTED FROM THE UNDER 18’S YOU STILL NEED TO EARN PROMOTION TO THE LEAGUE.