Bazza I can’t quite recall which year it was but I am sure you will be able to remember (and apologies to Southerner and oos) that Malcolm Brown required the South’s players to train at half-time of the league match Souths versus Swans?
Hardly surprising the Ozfooty troll missed the whole point of the exercise of this thread topic which was to show up the total inequality of WAFL footy by club since the day the Dodos arrived on the scene in 87 …it certainly wasn’t to beat ones chest over being the 4th or 5th best performed side :woohoo: over that time which was mainly boosted by being the Dorks Dags for a few years! :whistle:
Hey Ark yes Swans did pick up Mick Johns mid season from you guys back in 83.
At the time he was playing Reserves footy for you guys as Keene, Scott, McFaull and even Putt were ahead of him in the ruck que at Subiaco.
Todd brought him in as cover for a young & raw Sartori as Boucher was having knee issues and Sidebottom had gone East.
And just on that last point alone over that early to mid 80s era for SD we lost the calibre of players to the VFL in the likes of Baker, Holden, Richardson, Sartori, Neesham, Beasley, Smith, Kenny, Shine, Rance, Fogarty, P.Narkle, Hoyer, Williams a fair chunk of quality playing talent to lose in a short period of time in anyone’s language.
And then at the advent of the Dodos the likes of Holmes, Langsford, Hutton, Caton, Ugle, Cormack et al were added to the casualty list.
Back to Mick Johns tho he was a good pick up for us as was Barry Kimberley from Perth and became great favourites of the Black Duck brethren as they both gave 110% every time they pulled on the Black & White stripes.
BH: good post. There was indeed a big exodus from SD in those days and Toddy did a good job trying to fill the void. I agree with you on Mick Johns, Peter Castles and Vic Melville were also playing ahead of him at times, particularly early in the season.
I remember both he and Kimberley doing well for SD following all of the player losses you mentioned in your post. When did Marshall go across 83-4? There is picture of Marshall in the ‘history of Subi’, according to the caption, he is playing against SD; only trouble is that, if you look at the picture, he is playing in the number 19, which, of course, was his number at SD.
You have spoken highly of the players brought in to strengthen the club in the late 1970s, and later, to cover the player losses of the early 1980s, whom was your favourite player amongst those whom joined the club in that great era?
I can sympathise with you on all the losses suffered in 1986-87: I think the Lions lost around half a team; and yet, as we know, even as it happened, the powers that be promised to protect local football.
Bazza I can’t quite recall which year it was but I am sure you will be able to remember (and apologies to Southerner and oos) that Malcolm Brown required the South’s players to train at half-time of the league match Souths versus Swans?
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Yep remember that it was v Perth from memory that’ was Brownie for you lol
Yep remember that it was v Perth from memory that’ was Brownie for you lol
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Don’t think so Bazza. It was at Freo Oval and I was there, so that makes it a South Freo versus Swans’ game.
Yep remember that it was v Perth from memory that’ was Brownie for you lol
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Don’t think so Bazza. It was at Freo Oval and I was there, so that makes it a South Freo versus Swans’ game.
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That was Brownies way of getting PR for the WAFL, great man for that, I bit like ripping up Ch 7 mike cables!..lol
Anyway that was prior to the period we speak of
talking of an earlier time, how did swans perform v Brownie in the 1980 GF?
Hardly surprising the Ozfooty troll missed the whole point of the exercise of this thread topic which was to show up the total inequality of WAFL footy by club since the day the Dodos arrived on the scene in 87 …it certainly wasn’t to beat ones chest over being the 4th or 5th best performed side :woohoo: over that time which was mainly boosted by being the Dorks Dags for a few years! :whistle:
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Hardly surprising the leading SD troll to have a sook over not having decent figures to talk about.
As for inequality, well go back over the records various clubs have had dominance over long periods, EF had far more flags than any other club over the journey, does that point to inequality, SF dominated in the 40’s and 50’s, EP P WP have had their runs in history and yes god fore bid even the bogans hat tricks!
Claremont have been outstanding since the 80s really and Subi’s re-emergence as a power before the eagles even came into the comp with a revitalised board massive sponsor that lifted them from oblivion to two GFs, sure in recent times cash has come their way , perhaps its just karma for years of being a laughing stock.
As for Swans predicament , look at your board and stop pointing and looking for excuses elsewhere which is what you mob of bad sports are notorious for, be in umpires, freekicks or whatever. You really need to improve whilst out on parole.
What has parole got to do with a discussion on WAFL football since 1987?
Before you destroy YET ANOTHER sensible discussion topic on finding out reasons why certain clubs have fared well since 1987 and others not, I suggest you take yourself and your mindless moronic posts completely out of it as it obviously proven to be well beyond your capabilities.
As for beating one’s chest over being the 5th best side in that 87-now period when the 3 year period 99-01 as Freos Ressies significantly boosted the W-L % I would think you should actually be bowing down to the FFC & the SFFC board (Bazza is the same guy that was bagging both the SFFC President & CEO over the last couple of years relentlessly) for bending over and becoming the FFC bitch instead of bagging them relentlessly as you do as without that time period your figures would be no better than a SDFC who’s board (significantly I might add) havent folded like a deck chair on a P&O cruise ship!
AR remember Ken Marshall in the 84 Grand Final.Built like a tank,great footballer.
He certainly was built like Micky Conlan GTR ..he could certainly play alright no doubt about that, just consistency tended to let Kenny down at times.
Ark from memory Tom Floyd was involved with the trade of either Marshall or Johns does that ring a bell?
Sorry ARK got side tracked mate.
I believe Marshall wore number 17 when he played for us mate the same number left vacant by the retirement of Melrose in 83.
On my favourite player of all the recruits hmmm gee that is a tough one mate ..Melrose & Neesham from (EF) were champion players, Marshall (S) was at times exciting with his brute strength and skill, Johns (S) & Kimberley (P) were real favourites as they always gave everything, Allen (EP) was injured most of the 2 years he was with us before heading back to Bulwer St, W.Simms (P) knee only lasted a short time, Lethal Leigh Brenton had a very good 83 season but eventually headed back to Moss St, Hetherington (EF) was another honest trier who I liked because he was very consistent he played in our 90 flag as well. Brett Farmer (C) was one who didnt fire a shot after a few sensational seasons at the Tigers.
After all of that I would have to say Tony Solin (SF) would be close to it as unlike the others he was hardly heard of before coming to Basso and ended up having a cracker of a career with us and his nullifying job on Warren Ralph in the 83 GF when Mullooly was unavailable with an injury was a performance many Black Ducks fans will never forget ..Ralph was a goalkicking machine at the time!
thought you would of plumped for Leigh Brenton BH in all honesty 
…zipping down the wing at Basso Oval…how many games did Brenton play for SD?
Bh my memory of Ken Marshall was the 84 final series.We where thrashed in the 2nd semi by Efreo.In the prelim Claremont lead by over 5 goals in the second qtr.That prelim was one of the great WA Footy matches.Boucher came on the ground in the last qtr and the Claremont players went TROPPO,trying to attack Roo.Can remember Marshall having a belter prelim + gf in 84,
That 1984 grand final was a belter of a game. Kevin Taylor flattened a Swans player (cant remember who) in the opening minutes of the game, then Swans went on a rampage scoring 10 goals to zip in the first quarter. I thought we had the game won, but the Sharks came back with 9 in the 2nd quarter. Swans did kick one crucial goal into the breeze in that quarter to lead 11 to 9 at half time. I’m almost certain that Ken Marshall kicked that vital goal. East Freo kept on coming in the 3rd quarter and at one stage closed to within a point which is incredible when you think they were 10 goals down at one stage, but thankfully they ran out of gas by playing catch up footy and Swans ran away with it. I think I celebrated that premiership more than any other until 2010!
38 games-14 goals (1983-85)
Kevin Taylor was another handy recruit from your mob Freeze a bit of a highlights package tho you blokes probably ended up with Neesham & Solin in exchange! :pinch:
Have watched that 84 GF a few times mike.The speed and tempo and ball movement,physical clashes.That was a crazy first half of footy.If the WAFL could produce that standard of footy today ,crowds would not be a debating issue as it is now.
BH: thanks for your thoughts mate; I think Melrose and Neesham gave great service, along with the many others you have mentioned. I remember poor Sims going down, unfortunate indeed. I had completely forgotten that Brett Farmer played out your way, it is funny how the mind works. Hetherington was a good solid league footballer, I agree. It is true too, that Ralph was a bit of a phenomenon at the time, and, to blanket him was a great effort. I have always had a soft spot for Tony Solin, because, as you know, he came over to Subi for a couple of years.
It was a great era for SD and the competition.
Only attracted a crowd of 41,000, way down on the 50,000 plus records only a few years prior, sadly interest in WAFL was already in decline as the flight of players to the Vfl gathered momentum.
Spot on