Swans getting back towards full strength with the inclusion of Pasini and Hilton for Saturdays game. Also Erceg and Bright have been named in the ressies.
Can’t really fault the players effort in the games I have seen. Its their skills that have let them down and cost them victories in the past few weeks. They must try and find a way to score more than 7 goals on Saturday although it will be interesting to see the impact of the predicted wet weather
So far in the 4 games this season our scores have been-
8.7 (55)
6.6 (42)
8.10 (58)
6.12 (48)
And when I look at the side the selectors pick week in week out I wonder how on earth we are going to even get close to kicking what I consider should be the target for each game (100 points).
For far too long our focus has been on defending instead of scoring!
Great having Hilton, Pasini and Taylor back in defence - we might keep EF to four and win with our usual seven or eight - while Watson on a wing is a better option to improve pace on the centre-line than Chipper and Kelly that are emergencies.
Smith had a rough one last week after playing well against SF, but Caporn would be a sounder choice to improve the goal scoring opportunities tomorrow.
LOL SH, if we keep the Sharks to 4 goals, I will go up to the Swans bar and get absolutely hammered for the first time in many years
A tough watch. East Freo far too good. Swans heading for the wooden spoon I fear. No system, only one forward, skills not up to WAFL standard, how quickly it has all fallen apart after the preliminary final appearance last season.
Well done to the Reserves for remaining unbeaten
Whats the definition of insanity?
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Will someone please inform the SDFC of the above quote!
We are so far off the pace it is frightening at the moment.
We are virtually getting next to nothing from 70% of the League team and I will have no hesitation in naming names either!
If you needed any more information as to how out of touch this club is at the moment then all you had to do was go up stairs into the members bar yesterday where the ladies day was given full license to the area and had music blasting all afternoon, at a level that you couldn’t have a normal conversation. Not only this but the bar staff, and girls in attendance seemed to have exclusivity to being served first and many weekly attendees were left standing and waiting for extended periods to even be acknowledged. When one or 2 people said something about the noise and the service they were greeted with a response that lacked any sense of care or understanding. It’s little wonder the crowd numbers are dropping in alarming fashion. Not only is the style of football unwatchable and unsustainable but the vibe in and around the club has a stench at the moment that I’ve not seen for a long time. Im not privy to the details but something is definitely going on behind the scenes that is adding to the unrest.
On field it same shit, different week!
The body language of the players is horrible. If there isn’t a circuit breaker somewhere in the club very soon then the damage being done won’t just be limited to this year!
[quote=“Danger post=242660 userid=2084”]If you needed any more information as to how out of touch this club is at the moment then all you had to do was go up stairs into the members bar yesterday where the ladies day was given full license to the area and had music blasting all afternoon, at a level that you couldn’t have a normal conversation. Not only this but the bar staff, and girls in attendance seemed to have exclusivity to being served first and many weekly attendees were left standing and waiting for extended periods to even be acknowledged. When one or 2 people said something about the noise and the service they were greeted with a response that lacked any sense of care or understanding. It’s little wonder the crowd numbers are dropping in alarming fashion. Not only is the style of football unwatchable and unsustainable but the vibe in and around the club has a stench at the moment that I’ve not seen for a long time. Im not privy to the details but something is definitely going on behind the scenes that is adding to the unrest.
On field it same shit, different week!
The body language of the players is horrible. If there isn’t a circuit breaker somewhere in the club very soon then the damage being done won’t just be limited to this year!
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I take no pleasure in the Swans sitting at the bottom of the ladder Danger. But regarding ladies day a bit of noise and music is a small price to pay. Perth had theirs as well and the bar after the game was packed and very very noisy. Saying that you have a better set up to us where you can watch the game from the inside bar. Our girls had a temp stand set up on the outer and only came in after the game - maybe that would be a better idea for the Swans.
A lot of bar staff just hired from an agency and most of the temps are pretty ordinary - some struggle to pour a proper beer. A
[quote=“Danger post=242660 userid=2084”]If you needed any more information as to how out of touch this club is at the moment then all you had to do was go up stairs into the members bar yesterday where the ladies day was given full license to the area and had music blasting all afternoon, at a level that you couldn’t have a normal conversation. Not only this but the bar staff, and girls in attendance seemed to have exclusivity to being served first and many weekly attendees were left standing and waiting for extended periods to even be acknowledged. When one or 2 people said something about the noise and the service they were greeted with a response that lacked any sense of care or understanding. It’s little wonder the crowd numbers are dropping in alarming fashion. Not only is the style of football unwatchable and unsustainable but the vibe in and around the club has a stench at the moment that I’ve not seen for a long time. Im not privy to the details but something is definitely going on behind the scenes that is adding to the unrest.
On field it same shit, different week!
The body language of the players is horrible. If there isn’t a circuit breaker somewhere in the club very soon then the damage being done won’t just be limited to this year!
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7 losses in a row now with no end in sight.
If there is not crisis meetings taking place right now then they might as well just pack the mens team up now and just become a community hub!
BH this is just the history of our club.
We develop a premiership window team every 20 years.In modern day Wafl that will be a small window.
Not like 1961,62,63. Or 1982-83-84.
In between thoes 20 year gaps.We spend most of our time on the bottom of the ladder.Some competitive teams in between thoes 20 year eras.
Like 1974-75,.1980-81…1990…1991-92–93–94-2016 2024.And the build up to the 2010 GF.2007-08-09.
And yesterday was historic Swans.Watched the game on 7.Did we have 1500 at the game.At least 50% of our fans disapear.And wont come back till we start winning again.We could have another 5 years of this.
This is 90 years of the Swan District’s football club.
[quote=“Beasley Hutton post=242595 userid=847”]So far in the 4 games this season our scores have been-
8.7 (55)
6.6 (42)
8.10 (58)
6.12 (48)
And when I look at the side the selectors pick week in week out I wonder how on earth we are going to even get close to kicking what I consider should be the target for each game (100 points).
For far too long our focus has been on defending instead of scoring!
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Yesterday-
8.9 (57)
These scoring issues actually go back to late last season as well, we havent scored over 88 points in a game in our last 15 games and in fact only did it 3 times last year as well and that was with the likes of Rokahr, Edwards, Glass-McCasker playing.
Now these numbers should have been well known to our FD but what did they do about getting some decent forward talent in over the off season???..
[quote=“gtrxuone post=242666 userid=2215”]BH this is just the history of our club.
We develop a premiership window team every 20 years.In modern day Wafl that will be a small window.
Not like 1961,62,63. Or 1982-83-84.
In between thoes 20 year gaps.We spend most of our time on the bottom of the ladder.Some competitive teams in between thoes 20 year eras.
Like 1974-75,.1980-81…1990…1991-92–93–94-2016 2024.And the build up to the 2010 GF.2007-08-09.
And yesterday was historic Swans.Watched the game on 7.Did we have 1500 at the game.At least 50% of our fans disapear.And wont come back till we start winning again.We could have another 5 years of this.
This is 90 years of the Swan District’s football club.
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This is all true GTR but what has our club done to arrest these continual seasons of just falling in a heap?
What expertise have we added to the club in any of these football areas (coaching, recruiting, skills, S&C, fitness, development) since the Preliminary Final last year when it was obvious to some of us we were a fair way off the top few sides and with an aging side who were not going to get any better to lift us further???
From the outside looking in BH.
Our crowds are well down on 15 years ago. The last time we,where a power Wafl club.Maby down from 4,500 a home game to 1,500.
Thats a big loss of revenue.Home gate,food,bar.We where matching $ubi in recruits,back then.That affect who we can get to the club.Both on and off the field.
Hanson,Krakourer ,Toomey,Swooper and a few others like Brian Dawson.
It will need a bit of luck and good recruiting to turn,this around.Need a gun Colts side and Ressies.Give up on 25 and play the kids.
BH you know what Swans are like.We just accepting of this as our history.
Kohlmann looked like the only one who was going to kick goals - Marlin looked vulnerable for us - but for some reason, the Black Ducks refuse to kick the ball direct. There was one bit of play where someone was streaming through the middle and could’ve launched it forward but they kicked it out wide 45 degrees to the winger - who was under pressure. Even on the footage, the supporters were screaming “Kick it” as they handball around in circles.
Can see why the supporters are frustrated! Because that team on paper is better than kicking 55 points a game or whatever it is
I just dont understand how the coaches can think that Jesse Turner getting the ball nearly 40 times a week is beneficial for us.
He demands the footy from younger players, abuses them when he doesnt get it and constantly turns 1 possession into 2 with no gain in territory.
He butchers the ball regularly and the opposition absolutely torch him going the other way.
Give me 20 hard tocuhes instead and towards our goal preferably.
He is stat padding and has done for many years.
JT was a big advocate for Pruyn and this is why. Unfortunately Pruyn has fallen into the trap of having different standards for different players and once this becomes obvious to the team it will create division and disharmony if the team isn’t winning.
so now Kohlmann is going to be out for an extended period with a hamstring injury. He is the only player in the current team capable of kicking multiple goals so where do we go now?
As for the broader conversation I reckon the football department got complacent after our 3rd place finish last year and thought that we would be up there contending there again this season. So we have not matched the recruiting campaigns of teams like Perth, South Fremantle and West Perth and we are now playing the worst football in the WAFL. There is no teamwork or system in the group and they all look like they are playing for themselves. Meanwhile the ressies are playing a much more direct style of footy and are scoring at least 12 goals a game.
Whilst embarrassing, maybe a wooden spoon this year may not be such a bad thing long term as surely it would trigger a shake up of the footy department. Pruyn is not the answer and also Smart has been there for too long, needs to move on
[quote=“Danger post=242722 userid=2084”]JT was a big advocate for Pruyn and this is why. Unfortunately Pruyn has fallen into the trap of having different standards for different players and once this becomes obvious to the team it will create division and disharmony if the team isn’t winning.
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This occurred before the season’s start with GM walking out and a few others dissatisfied with Howard’s grooming as a forward. That didn’t work…
I would like to see the guys in reserves, particularly the young ones,get rewarded for their victories with EXTENDED exposure to league. Whats the point of giving a guy like Cottelessa who is burning it up in the ressies, a taste of league footy for 1 week then dropping him again, makes zero sense. Same applies to Harvey, Kane, Reiger, Fitzgerald and Alforque. The club needs to look beyond 2025 now and look at who of these players are taking the club forward in years to come
We had the perfect opportunity to give some of the young guys a good crack at League footy in the first 4-8 weeks of this season with first the loss of Edwards just before the pre season games started and with Collins, Pasini, Trew, Clarke, Hilton, Bright, Ireland etc all being out injured or unavailable but instead we went back to the same old veterans who it was evident were pretty much done last year and they just havent been able to deliver.
Some of those young guys were actually some of our better players in the very underwhelming pre season games we played and yet were still overlooked come rd1.
Season 2026 should start right now and that includes scouring the country for the best available talent be it players, coaches, staff…