Anyone know how the shield is awarded in the case of a draw in the final? Listening to the sports show this morning and they didn’t really seem to know how it works. Apparently it’s to do with bonus points through the season, but who has the most? What a Fukn dogs dinner. Probably thought up by a New South Wanker or a Pricco.
58Shark, the first innings points apply to the first 100 overs of the innings in the final.
For the batting team they get 0.01 for every run over 200 in the first 100 overs. The bowling team get 0.1 points for a wicket.
So WA were 6-307 at the 100 over mark of their innings so WA got 1.07 (200+107) and Vic got 0.6
Victoria were 6 - 284 at the 100 over mark so they got 0.84 and WA got 0.6 for their wickets
So the total for WA was 1.67 and Victoria 1.44
Therefore if there is no result in the game, WA will win the shield.
A moot point because I think there is enough time for one team to force a victory.(hopefully WA)
I was at the game yesterday and listening to 91.3 and the bonus point system really created a game within the game. Fascinating to see the tactics changing as the targets loomed. I think it worked really well. It’s a shame people at the game not listening to the radio didn’t know what was happening as those around me were clueless to the tension
Definitely needed a tweak to prevent the home side from setting up shop and looking for a draw from day 1. As mikeh says, weather permitting plenty of time to get a result. Would love to see young Wyllie play a good innings today, definitely one for the future.
things were looking sketchy at 5 for just over 100 but it was an excellent rearguard fightback to go near on 400 ahead - hopefully we can do what has been done to us before and bat this one out now or maybe go hard at an outright early on tomorrow
we hold the aces in this one
who dreams up this stuff? The best way to get fairness is to make the final ‘timeless’- Bradman played under those rules, as did Hobbs, nethier seemed to have been harmed at all. Even better would be for commentators to stop complaining regarding ‘drawn matches’.
[quote=“ArkRoyal post=218255 userid=1915”]who dreams up this stuff? The best way to get fairness is to make the final ‘timeless’- Bradman played under those rules, as did Hobbs, nethier seemed to have been harmed at all. Even better would be for commentators to stop complaining regarding ‘drawn matches’.
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The commentary on Fox Cricket AR was nothing short of a disgrace.
It was like a chore for them all to be paid to commentate watching WA vs VIC over 5 days.
I for one will be putting in a complaint to the management as it was totally unacceptable!
There was one scenario today where Hardie played a shot which the cameraman at the ground followed out to the boundary and the commentators described it as such before they realised that the ball was nestled in the hands of Will Pucovski. It often sounded like they were a group of drunks telling stories in a bar rather than serious commentators.
best thing would have to be the Viccos having to give up at lunch - getting a bit of their own back after all this time
The commentary on Fox Cricket AR was nothing short of a disgrace.
It was like a chore for them all to be paid to commentate watching WA vs VIC over 5 days.
I for one will be putting in a complaint to the management as it was totally unacceptable!
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Every time I was able to tune in, all I heard was barracking for the Vics. Hoping for another few runs, hoping for another wicket, ffs!
[quote=“Southerner post=218272 userid=1210”]best thing would have to be the Viccos having to give up at lunch - getting a bit of their own back after all this time
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Be interesting to read the prictorian sports pages….how WA spoiled a good game by shutting it down.
along with NSW they’ll probably have the rules changed again so it can be rorted mate
One of the biggest threats will be NSW poaching either Inglis or Phillippe - Peter Nevill has retired from all cricket
I reckon they will have a crack at Phillipe Southerner as he already has contacts with them through the Sydney Sixers. I suppose it will depend if he is happy to stay in WA and develop as a middle order batsmen or if he is wanting to be a keeper/batsman. Inglis would be first choice keeper without doubt.
Looking back through the records of shield winners, apart from 1948/49 to 67/68, WA has been a constant winner of it. I was wondering if anyone has any theories as to why we have had our longest drought between shields?
Not easy to surmise 58 but will have a go.
We have certainly had the talent over the last 20 years since the last Shield win but for whatever reason be it poor attitude, poor culture at one point under the coach before Langer, poor decision making at times in critical moments of games, tough opposition especially NSW, QLD & VIC, National duties etc etc we just coulnt quite win the damn thing, it should be noted too they are not easy to win.
WA who only came into the SS in 1947/48 have won 16 times which is more than QLD (9) who have nearly double WA’s population & SA (13) who have been in the SS since it started in 1892/93.
Although we hadnt won it for 23 seasons I did note we havent finished last since the early 1960s which would indicate we have been around the mark but just not taken the final step.
There would be a multiple of reasons 58.
The preparation of the Waca wicket.Not the wicket of the 70’s,80’s or early 90’s.Coming from the 3 day test ,1992-93 V the West Indies.
Loss of young talent to the East Coast
Last decade has seen the lion’s share of resources,go into the Big Bash.
Waca board and management seem quiet stable now.But that’s not always been the case.If sporting organizations fail at the top.It normally filters down to the team performance.Have been told that by multiple Waca Members.
Like the National team.Langer brought the winning culture back to Wa cricket.
BH talking to Waca Cricket coaches.A number of changes came in about a decade ago.
Coaching credentials,player identification as teenagers. With special squads formed.Retaining all the young boys+girls in Cricket.
.And a total revamp of how things where done at the development levels.
Langer + the current Waca board+CA all worked to reformat Wa Cricket..If not we would end up permanently down the bottom. like South Australia.Who have struggled in the shield for 50 years
Thank you gents for your views, some really good points there.
I guess I was spoilt by our success in the 70’s and 80’s. I wasn’t around for the first one, but started following cricket in the 67/68 win. I love the big bash games as light entertainment, but disappointed that the lions share of resources were poured into it. Hopefully we are back on track for the future.
our decline probably co-incided with the rise of Queensland - they won their first titles around the time our drought started
But we lost quite a few players to other states which didn’t help our cause plus as the other guys have said our admin was bloody poor