Say NO to any AFL Clubs in the WAFL and Alignments

WAFL Say NO to any AFL Clubs in the WAFL
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To: WAFC
PO Box 275
Subiaco, WA 6904
08 9315599
26 April 2011

Dear Directors and Chairman of The WAFC

I am writing to object to the West Coast Eagles FC and the Fremantle FC entering a reserves team in the WAFL.

Only in the last four years, have the WAFL clubs been on the road to recovery , since the times of the 1990’s and early 2000’s where we found it close to dying off . As a die hard WAFL supporter I have noticed massive changes in the standard of the game and the increasing attendance and membership year after year. I’m extremely happy with the current direction that the WAFL is heading. Sure there will always be small things to improve on along the way.

I can see by allowing these two AFL Clubs to enter the WAFL they will become the permanent POWER HOUSE of the competition and enforcing an AFL style game. The WAFL will lose it’s unique and loved brand of football.

Also, the proposed entering of these two AFL Clubs will take away the loyal following of the WAFL and business from the local WAFL Clubs.

Overall I feel the amendment that would allow this to take place, is not in the best interest of the WAFL and I strongly urge you to when considering your decision to take cognisance of this. The WAFC should also consider the views of people such as, Members, Supporters, Past Players, Officials, and Volunteers of the WAFL.

I have also started a petition on Facebook called Say NO to any AFL Clubs in the WAFL with new members joining each day.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_209476909066392&ap=1

Sincerely,

George Denis Lee Copley

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George

Thank you for taking the time to forward your thoughts to the WAFC re the conversations that are occurring throughout the media re possible introduction of WCE/FFC teams into the WAFL. This issue has been around since day one when our state established our two AFL teams as both clubs believe ,and is supported by all other WAFL clubs, that having a reserves team ,whether at AFL or at WAFL levels is important for continuity of coaching , club culture, team fellowship etc etc.

The WAFL clubs have reserves teams for those same reasons but when the concept of adding AFL teams to the WAFL competition is raised there needs to be very careful analysis as doing anything that may damage the WAFL’s integrity will not happen.

The key issue for our states outstanding football system is how could our system be improved without impacting upon the INTEGRITY of the WAFL competition. That’s the conversations that will no doubt be happening over the 2011 football season.

The other important issue for you to understand ,is that the WAFL clubs have the final vote as to whether teams come in or not ,and so they will ultimately determine the outcome.

All clubs have shown their positive desire to look at any new idea such as this concept, even though they are not in favour at this stage and may not be later on once all details as to how this concept could work have been released. The fact they are prepared to listen and “not shut the door” before hand is a credit to them.

Debate as to how our states football system can keep on improving is healthy and therefore this issue will no doubt create great community conversation as has been happening so far.

We can assure you that no decision will be made without the most extensive reviews and analysis by every stakeholder body i.e. WAFL clubs /Districts/ Country/ WCE,FFC and others as that is the leadership role of the independent WA Football Commission.

Once the concept/business paper from the WCE/FFC has been released (e.g. some time at end of this month April) then all sections of the WA football family will be able to understand what and how the WCE/FFC propose this concept will work, and in particular ,will further enhance the WAFL competition and the overall game in WA.

Again, it is important for you to understand that for our game in WA to continually grow (as it has been doing over the past years) we need to fully embrace any new idea such as this one, so that once everyone has been able to review /analyse this new concept, then we as football family, can ensure that nothing is changed that will impact negatively upon any one particular area of our game in WA e.g. WAFL, Community clubs, junior development etc .

In establishing your Facebook “Say no to any AFL clubs in the WAFL” we would encourage you to make sure that all those passionate WAFL followers who may register, take time to listen to /review what our states two AFL clubs will say in their presentation later this month. Jumping at shadows today without knowledge of what might be said /offered doesn’t provide balance for our game overall in the future.

Your love of the WAFL is to be commended and we would hope that this ‘die hard” support continues into the years to come but from time to time any structure /system will be challenged as to new ideas which everyone of us must take time to think through as that is the only way our game in WA can keep on improving.

All the very best and thank you.

Kind regards

Grant
Grant Dorrington BEM
Director of Football

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I think Grant Dorrington forgot to start his epistle with: Once upon a time.

I have read and heard much dribble bordering on the puerile. None would surpass the above.

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What a load of crap from the WAFL… Funny isnt it the WAFL runs the WAFL comp yet the WAFC that holds the licences made the decision for them and the WAFL is now towing the line. The comments by Dorrington remind me of replies from Politicians when they have no answers. They say a lot but Say nothing and do not answer your questions.

I loved this paragraph quote

The other important issue for you to understand ,is that the WAFL clubs have the final vote as to whether teams come in or not ,and so they will ultimately determine the outcome.

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REALLY!!!Thats not the way I saw it

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saddest day I ever had being a proud South supporter and also Sandgroper supporter to be honest … I see they’ve even trashed the WAFL forum now because of the expected backlash and flood of comments

So in my first post here I’ll say that I ceased my active (or otherwise) following of the VFL (yeah it’s a deliberate typo!)and any team in there … but I’d probably barrack for a Sydney Or Qld side rather than these two vipers over here

So … how the hell are we Lads … er sorry - and Ladies??? How many came over from the old WAFL site ???

Cheers & hope we still have a comp in the next 2 years to come!!!

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I guess that most of the old FG crew are here now southerner, albeit some under different names. I think the comp will last 2-5 years, or till the 2 leaches slowly suck the blood out of the 7 WAFL clubs. Who knows then? BTW, as a Sharks supporter, I look forward to crossing swords with you through the season :slight_smile:

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haha cheers '58 … there’ll be little of the swords , my only desire for now is to rid my beloved Fremantle Oval of the VFL poison that we are forced to live with , well since 1994/5 anyway.
I am deeply disturbed that loyal young players who have graduated through their clubs from Colts to League will be forced to other clubs due to the “2 toxic alliances”
I am infuriated by the disdain & contempt shown by the two WA based VFL sides & their WAFC puppet regime that consists mainly of ex-East Perthians (surprise surprise)
And lastly I am concerned & resigned to the fact that the 7 unfortunates will have to recruit heavily from anywhere & everywhere just to be in contention - and will lose stalwarts & promising youth hand over fist due to the vipers of the league.
And of course I will boycott EP Eagles & Congealed Docker Chunder games from here on in
Bring it on :evil: :pinch:

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Despite the protestations of Port Melbourne Coach Gary Ayers,the wheels have put in motion for a Revamped AFL Reserves Competition.

Having let it slip,that they would look into putting a Women’s Team in the AFL Women’s Competition and now gone quiet about it,you can now Trevor,look at putting a Reserves team in the revamped AFL Reserves Competition.

You know can afford it,because you kept reminding Western Australians through frequent press releases,how well off you are.Freo kept quiet as Church Mouse,except when they too,followed West Coast and told us how well off they were too.They may have even lead from the front on that score,but kept their counsel on having a Women’s and AFL Reserves Team.

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…continuing(sorry,got called to a errand).

These 2 Clubs can stop the Charade of playing Rich Man,poor man with the WAFL Competition,enter a Team in the Revamped AFL Reserves Competition and leave the WAFL Competition alone.

Your presence has not improved the competition 1 little bit,despite arguements about Ratings,improving the Profile of the Competition.Bums on couches keep the Television networks happy,but does nothing to improve Membership,Attendances,Sponsorship of the 9 Clubs.

Especially when we have to Run our Sponsors through bloody 7 and the Commission,so as to not upset their sponsors.Can anyone explain to me,when it comes to competing networks,whether CBS is a Rival to 7’s US affiliate NBC?

Could have sworn I saw a CBS NFL Broadcast on 7,last week.Please explain Mr Stokes,Worner or D’Orazio.

In light of the Inside Football Revelations about the Possible revival of the AFL Reserves Competition,which I believe was gaining momentum,I thought it was time we revived this thread to put the HEAT on the 2AFL Clubs here,to pack their bags,22 times over every 2nd week to play in this competition.

They know they can afford it.Don’t think I didn’t notice that cosy little add with Virgin,with Eagles players sleeping like babies.Wonder why that add disappeared pretty quickly.Hoping nobody would notice Folks.That you have received Travel Concessions?

And did you not get Accommodation concessions earlier this year,like I said you would on countless texts to Maumill and Hagdorn?

The Gig’s Up West Coast and Fremantle.

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Feel free to help revive this thread Swan.There’s plenty if material to work with. :wink:

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Gary Ayres spoke about the effect of the AFL Clubs leaving the VSFL and from his point of view,I can understand that.

Well at least,what effect it would have on the remains VFL Clubs.The problem is,there’s only a handful left,so if they were left by the AFL Clubs,what then?

Their problem is the Complete reverse of our’s.We want the Eagles and Dockers Out,because their presence has a negative effect on the competition.Port,Williamstown et al,would struggle,because,they won’t have a competition left without the AFL Clubs.

You think the AFL could properly set up the Revamped AFL Reserves Competition and look after the State Leagues,or at least assist in making them stronger.But that would be too much work for the Executive to consider wouldn’t it?! :woohoo:

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The strongest indication came the other ay,that both the Eagles and Dockers want a team in the 6 team Womens’AFL Competition.

So with your Reserves Team,how about it you lot!

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Confirmed by the Sunday Times story - Girl Power Fires new Footy Comp.

“The AFL wants a Women’s Football League established by 2017,with West Coast and Fremantle among the clubs bidding for a licence to field one of 6 initial teams.”

There you have it folks!So,having said and whinged they couldn’t afford to send a Reserves team over every 2nd week,both the Eagles and Dockers jumped at the chance at possibly making up 1/3 of a new competition.

The AFL aren’t much better.By all means set up the Womens’ Competition,but stop dragging your chains on a Revamped AFL Reserves competition and put it in place.What are you lot,West Coast and Fremantle playing at?

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…and what is The West playing at?

Has Stocksy got his mates there playing mute and acting dumb on this?

The 2 AFL Clubs have let it slip,they want a Womens’ Team,having whinged and moaned they couldn’t afford to send a Reserves team over.Yes they can!All 3 teams,since both clubs have bragging time and again in endless press releases last year and before that,about their Embarassment of riches whilst raking it in,then playing us for fools with the poor man ACT!

Stop playing us for fools,send a Reserves team over with your League Teams when they’re on the Road!Problem solved!Ask the AFL for special dispensation to increase your list by 5 if you must.The AFL will listen to you lot jumping up and down,having seen you 2 get Accomodation concessions and most likely both of you getting travel concessions.

West Coast players looked very cosy on those Virgin ads.Don’t tell me Fremantle weren’t extended the same deal?

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65 000 West Coast Members

55 000? Docker Members

The more you lot keep bragging about things like this,the more our arguements will be forwarded as to Why you should send your Reserves Players East 10+ games a year.

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Just so youse know,I am still maintaining the RAGE!

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Just so youse know,I am still maintaining the RAGE!
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Ask Btuce Francis to get a senate enquiry lol.

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That’s a seperate Battle to this one.

I’ll give you a laugh.

He’s nicked off from the Bombertalk site.Probably won’t last,but he’s supposedly cheesed off with one of our moderators.

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With Apologies to Rik Mayall(Rip),Ben Elton,Lise Mayer.

Dimwit Facist Bully Boys!!!'!
(WAFC,West Coast,Fremantle Executives)

Take your Money Back(for the last 2 years of the deal)!!!

You Bastards!!!

:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

I could hardly call them Darlings Ben,because they’re not.Not even sarcastically!

$300 Grand sounds great.Up to the WAFC to find it elsewhere.When we wave goodbye to the Eagles and Dockers Reserves at the Airport,10 times a year.Plus away Finals.

They can afford itThey keep telling us they’re loaded.Thommo reminded us about their record memberships this morning.

So nick off and do it.Leave the WAFL!Now preferably,but season’s end will suffice!

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Any comments here,George?

This thread was your baby and you should be proud,you raised this as a Legitimate Issue and complaint against the 2 AFL Clubs here,with the AFL,the WAFC and their lickspittle media,doing their Level Best to Fuck up Western Australia’s State League Competition.The one we all know and love as the WAFL.