[quote=“Freezin post=237499 userid=945”]Naagh not being entitled DD, just realistic…in a dog eat dog competition, not sure any club is willingly going to hand another club any sort of advantage they have.
I can’t see many clubs are going to be thrilled to hand over a zone, they have heavily invested in and built from the ground up, with their own financial resources and manpower, to a club, to simply walk in a reap the benefits from the off. But I wouldn’t say no to Perth snaring Peel’s zone as a starting point…does Peel even need a zone with an AFL club funding them?
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You don’t get it mate. It’s not up to you or your club. If the WAFC makes the right call they can do what they please. The only question is to this point, why haven’t they been willing to do so?
[quote=“Tiger Tales post=237495 userid=2522”]DD, how many of the 11 recruits Perth have brought in over the last 2 seasons will still be at Perth in 2025?
And just as importantly why have they left? The club is financial so money isn’t the issue, you have more points available than other clubs too…so what’s the reason?
Answer that and it will will answer why you struggle to attract and retain the available talent from within your district. They say success breeds success…nearly 50 years of mediocrity isn’t helping Perth recruit and retain.
Why would any club hand it’s zones over to Perth who have a country zone on their doorstep and fail to work it well. What hope do you think Perth would have trying to service the Kimberley, Kalgoorlie, Albany or Esperance?
Who cares about Colts and Ressies flags anyway, it’s all about your League team winning a flag. Subiaco didn’t get much through there zone for several years and most that did come through went on to AFL but recruited well and had excellent success. EP doesn’t have a good metro zone but again have recruited well. Swans have recruited well too.
If Claremont and EF have such strong zones then why aren’t Perth topping up their squad with the overflowing talent once these players turn 19 and arent on the protected 40? seems most of the movement is from Perth not too Perth. I’m sure Cody Leggett is happy with his decision
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Fuck iPad crashed. Start again. A few B graders not up to it. Lane, Howard and Shannon. Thompson’s girlfriend doesn’t want to come here and I heard he’s been carrying a groin all season and is taking a year off from playing. When he arrived last year he was coming off a pretty serious ankle injury. Chaplain told the club from the outset he could only play for one year. Going to Geelong to complete his agricultural studies and eventually return to the family farm.
[quote=“BC post=237493 userid=892”]Agree with your comments on zones DD. It’s no coincidence Claremont colts have finished the home and away season in the top two eight of the last ten years whereas Perth has done it only twice over the same period but also finished bottom two on 5 occasions.
There could be any number of reasons for that particular anomaly but I’d start with zone allocation if I were the WAFC.
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I noticed BC Claremont have a stack of players from Scarborough in their league and colts lists. How in the hell did they get Scarborough off you? As if they aren’t brimming with talent already.
I noticed BC Claremont have a stack of players from Scarborough in their league and colts lists. How in the hell did they get Scarborough off you? As if they aren’t brimming with talent already.
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It’s based on where they live not which club they play at. Karrinyup where Scarborough FC is located is in the Subi Zone, along with north part of North Beach but Trigg, south end of North Beach and Scarbs are in the Claremont zone and have been for a while. We lost some suburbs further inland to Subi. Claremont had Hamersley back in the mid 90s but think thats now with Subi. Subi also picked up Greenwood from WP around the same time
[quote=“BC post=237493 userid=892”]Agree with your comments on zones DD. It’s no coincidence Claremont colts have finished the home and away season in the top two eight of the last ten years whereas Perth has done it only twice over the same period but also finished bottom two on 5 occasions.
There could be any number of reasons for that particular anomaly but I’d start with zone allocation if I were the WAFC.
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More to do with Socio Economics rather than zones BC, Claremont also has a lot of Aborginal players but they are far better at developing them and keeping them in the system than Perth, theres are variety of reason for that but no reason why Perth cannot replicate it.
How fucking entitled are you? “Clubs aren’t going to HAND over THEIR ZONES”. Like you own them like it’s your birthright. It’s that kind of selfish attitude that starves the WAFL of a fair competition. So you just expect us to survive by relying on recruiting to be competitive when in fact despite recruiting about 11 players in the last two seasons we have still only managed to finish last and second last.
If the WAFC had any guts they would redistribute zones based on consistent levels of succes or lack of it in particular country zones. It is absolute madness that while Claremont enjoys the richest metro zone probably in the country they also enjoy the riches of a thriving country zone.
At the very least the WAFC should be saying we are going to try equalising the competition by giving the strongest country zone to the weakest WAFL club and that is clearly Perth. You all make that blatantly obvious on a regular basis.
Heard someone say on a 91.3 podcast East Fremantle have 12 former AFL players in their team. Wow, incredible and I’d say all but a couple would be home grown ex AFL players. Boekhurst and English being ex SD and Perth. Perth has only one I can think of being Mathew Taylor.
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Well they actually do “own” them at the moment, and wont give them up without compensation. Why should they?
What’s to get DD. Your perception of the WAFC doing right, is giving Perth a zone/s, that another club has probably developed from scratch, to a zone that is providing a steady supply of quality footballers. My perception is that why should the WAFC make my club EF give up a zone like Geraldton, one they have spent 50 years developing, to Perth to benefit from the off.
Get the WAFC to pressure Peel for their zones, like I said Freo fund Peel…they recruit for Peel and pay the wages of those Freo players, playing for Peel in the WAFL. We know they won’t because Freo help fund the WAFC.
[quote=“Freezin post=237512 userid=945”]What’s to get DD. Your perception of the WAFC doing right, is giving Perth a zone/s, that another club has probably developed from scratch, to a zone that is providing a steady supply of quality footballers. My perception is that why should the WAFC make my club EF give up a zone like Geraldton, one they have spent 50 years developing, to Perth to benefit from the off.
Get the WAFC to pressure Peel for their zones, like I said Freo fund Peel…they recruit for Peel and pay the wages of those Freo players, playing for Peel in the WAFL. We know they won’t because Freo help fund the WAFC.
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Luv the way you say “we developed”. So the Harry Taylors, Josh Kennedy’s, Cripps x 2 etc… wouldn’t have emerged if Perth had your country zone? Good thing we “developed” Jaeger O’Meara in Dongara hey? Or did you geniuses “develop” him before we were handed Dongara?
Yeh I get it now freezin. The likes of you and a number of others like it the way it is. I get it.
Employ quality junior talent managers, you recently lost a good one but prior to that your junior talent manager wasn’t approachable, wouldn’t listen and narrow minded. This destroys your chances of home grown talent coming through. So many good kids not given a chance because they come from a club playing in a division 2 or division 3. Invest time and effort into your zone and make it better.
Geez DD going off that post from CBAG, it sounds likes Cripps x 2, HT,’ JK et al would of had played basketball for the Geraldton Buccanears instead of footy in the GNFL if Perth were overseeing footy development in the Geraldton area.
I actually I do get it DD, you are a frustrated Perth fan, seeking the heady glory days of the 60’s and 70’s…your club has a bucket loads of money, fantastic facilities, and super loyal fans. You definitely deserve better…and no I don’t give a shite about Perth, because I know, if the shoe was on the foot, none of you Perth boys would give a shite about EF…and rightly so.
This topic, and variants of it, have raged for years. Hate to be a pessimist, but I can’t see anything changing. WP got off essentially scot free because they service the northern corridor, where a lot of migrants settle. We are one of a glut of inner city teams. if we folded, our zones could be easily carved up between SD, S, EP and C. There won’t any help - if anything, I would think one less club would be a relief to the WAFC.
I think our situation is dire. You look at our list. I would say Byrne and Davis are the only players in our best 22 from our metro zone, and only R Clarke, Taylor and Sing from country. Davis and Sing are hardly world beaters. Others are around the mark, like Brogan-Henry, and hopefully guys like Fairbank, Watson, Cachard, Moore, Murray and Scoble will develop. But we are left, year after year, to pick up 2-3 high profile ex AFL players, and a bunch of fringe WAFL players. Sometimes that works for us, as with Avery and Coniglio. More often it doesn’t. Expect the same next season - we seem likely to lose more players than we can replace from within, so we will court disaffected players from rival clubs.
[quote=“Freezin post=237517 userid=945”]Geez DD going off that post from CBAG, it sounds likes Cripps x 2, HT,’ JK et al would of had played basketball for the Geraldton Buccanears instead of footy in the GNFL if Perth were overseeing footy development in the Geraldton area.
I actually I do get it DD, you are a frustrated Perth fan, seeking the heady glory days of the 60’s and 70’s…your club has a bucket loads of money, fantastic facilities, and super loyal fans. You definitely deserve better…and no I don’t give a shite about Perth, because I know, if the shoe was on the foot, none of you Perth boys would give a shite about EF…and rightly so.
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Oh well let’s hope your club goes belly up then if that’s your attitude.
Agree to developing the 10 or so local junior facilities in Perth’s zone. Say contributing $250K a year whilst using their pull with government (Local, State, Federal) to match this contribution. This would allow revamped changerooms, better playing surface, better lighting for Perth’s district. Do one Junior club a year.
Get our Stand started. Now. This Year. October.
Throw $1 Mill into the finishing touches of this Stand - to go into having the best displayed history. Modeled off The Claremont Tigers. (This on top of the $1 Mill already committed).
No Change to Perth Jumpers or Song.
Get us another 1 Mill in sponsorship a year so we can have the highest paid coach.
Said coach to have final say on what Eagles plays for the League team.
Develop the 3 dilapidated houses close to the oval to house disadvantaged youth.
Ten year maximum arrangement that sees Perth as the richest Club outside of the AFL at the end of it.
No premiership by 2026 sees them giving us an automatic $250K and a free pass out of the arrangement.
Peel v Perth to be played as a curtin raiser once a year. All Peth Members free access to ground.
WAFC to agree to Perth’s top three zonal requests by 2029.
Perth to have access to the Eagles doctors, Physio’s, Nutritionist, imaging at no cost.
Well, it should net an alignment team a flag or two - within 2 years, according to this time frame. Whether that team could be described as Perth Football Club is open to debate.
[quote=“Time For a Flag post=237528 userid=1037”]1. Agree to developing the 10 or so local junior facilities in Perth’s zone. Say contributing $250K a year whilst using their pull with government (Local, State, Federal) to match this contribution. This would allow revamped changerooms, better playing surface, better lighting for Perth’s district. Do one Junior club a year.
Get our Stand started. Now. This Year. October.
Throw $1 Mill into the finishing touches of this Stand - to go into having the best displayed history. Modeled off The Claremont Tigers. (This on top of the $1 Mill already committed).
No Change to Perth Jumpers or Song.
Get us another 1 Mill in sponsorship a year so we can have the highest paid coach.
Said coach to have final say on what Eagles plays for the League team.
Develop the 3 dilapidated houses close to the oval to house disadvantaged youth.
Ten year maximum arrangement that sees Perth as the richest Club outside of the AFL at the end of it.
No premiership by 2026 sees them giving us an automatic $250K and a free pass out of the arrangement.
Peel v Perth to be played as a curtin raiser once a year. All Peth Members free access to ground.
WAFC to agree to Perth’s top three zonal requests by 2029.
Perth to have access to the Eagles doctors, Physio’s, Nutritionist, imaging at no cost.
Just a thought people
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just a thought ???
every club in Australia would be lining up for some of this dreamy magic - I showed some people this list and every single one of them burst out laughing and most of them said “is this a joke or on Facebook lala land”
out of curiosity do you really expect anyone to just gift your club this list ?