For those who may not have heard The West Coast Eagles are losing by 137 points to a team who are not particularly good in Sydney this afternoon. It is only 3 quarter time. Their WAFL team got beaten by 91 points at Claremont.
How has this happened to a team that won an AFL flag 5 years ago?. You can go through the reasons of injuries, COVID, poor list decisions etc but when do they become excuses and the finger points at the leadership of the club and change is mandatory.?
Update: Final margin 171 points. A club record defeat
[quote=“mikeh post=228874 userid=926”]For those who may not have heard The West Coast Eagles are losing by 137 points to a team who are not particularly good in Sydney this afternoon. It is only 3 quarter time. Their WAFL team got beaten by 91 points at Claremont.
How has this happened to a team that won an AFL flag 5 years ago?. You can go through the reasons of injuries, COVID, poor list decisions etc but when do they become excuses and the finger points at the leadership of the club and change is mandatory.?
Update: Final margin 171 points. A club record defeat
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They’re just having a bad run with injuries, that is all.
That WCE team is no where near as bad as a 171 point loss to a mediocre Swans team, even at the SCG. The team is just going through the motions, the desire and effort generally is absent, they play without commitment. Even with a decimated list the commitment and effort should still be apparent, but it’s not. These blokes are highly paid full time professional sportsmen, coaches and administrators. The buck stops with the CEO, the Football manager, List manager and the senior coach, all need to be moved on by seasons end if WC have any chance of convincing the members, supporters and football media that they are truly committed to re-building the list.
there’s just too much denial for anything at all to change - this has been coming for a very very long time and by christ they deserve every single scrap of this
Nisbett was able to hide away everything during and since the druggie criminal days he even hired a West Australian journo to construct a version of the truth , bloody funny Stocks is quiet as a mouse isn’t it
Lots of footy people know what’s really been going on and they know who makes the decisions
and just like Nisbett clockwork out comes the spiel
despite saying it’s a parlous situation , Martin at the WAFC (the owner) doesn’t want a bar of it and ran away
Unlike Hawthorn and North Melbourne who are in the middle of a rebuild with younger players, the Eagles have a cohort of Senior players who are either not performing or constantly injured, surrounded by kids who are obviously not ready for AFL football. I’m really not sure what they are trying to do or where they are going. They seem unwilling to make calls on the future of players such as Nic Nat, Darling, Shuey etc etc.
The problem is that WCE hierarchy keep saying the injury list is to blame but when you look at it, which A graders are still to come back in other than McGovern, Liam Ryan and maybe Waterman who is an honest plodder at best.
Hurn is past it, we won’t see Nic Nat again, Cripps playing for money…who else is there to make any difference? WCEs list management over the last several years has been a disaster and it all starts with Nisbett who sets the club’s direction. He should be the first to go.
If the young players they have brought into side don’t know that you can tackle (at the moment anyway) in our game then that is not the fault of injuries. The club should have told them.
[quote=“mikeh post=228874 userid=926”]For those who may not have heard The West Coast Eagles are losing by 137 points to a team who are not particularly good in Sydney this afternoon. It is only 3 quarter time. Their WAFL team got beaten by 91 points at Claremont.
How has this happened to a team that won an AFL flag 5 years ago?. You can go through the reasons of injuries, COVID, poor list decisions etc but when do they become excuses and the finger points at the leadership of the club and change is mandatory.?
Update: Final margin 171 points. A club record defeat
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Having a chat to players at our game the consensus of opinion from them was that Simpson is a really good coach and that blame for much of the issues should be laid fairly and squarely on the recruiting and list management people.
One of the players who had been on a VFL list suggested that this had been predicted elsewhere sometime ago.
Without going through the names mentioned it was clear that they thought players had been recruited that were perhaps '‘gunna be’s’ and haven’t and should have been delisted, players who have been played but just aren’t not up to VFL standards.
The issue now is for the CEO to accept that it is role to manage this part of the organisation and accept that they failed and have failed dismally.
Hey Grump. I just saw your byline attached to your posts and thought how true it was.
“We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended.”
These days it could also be extended to include where the silent majority is being sidelined to placate the vocal minority. We live in a different world from when I was a kid and I don’t necessarily think it’s a better one.
I suppose they want every-one to all have a cry about it?
And just wonder if big business is sparing a thought for the Wafl, which has been in the doldrums for donkeys years? With very poor attendances on a weekly basis and no real future plans to arrest the current dire predicament. And the Wafl receiving little support it must be said!
and so the sham begins again
Nisbett doing his very best impersonation of the invisible man
and the first casualty is a low leveller not the filthy prick that hired & oversaw him
wonder when the CIA spectre Gepp will pop it’s head up again
Just to put things in context. West Coasts current percentage is 47.3. The lowest % in VFL/AFL history is 45.4 (St Kilda 1955), GWS in their first season were 46.2 and Fitzroy in their last season (1996) were 49.5. This indicates not just a normal cyclical “bottoming out” but a complete fall off a cliff which may take them 5 years to recover from.
[quote=“mikeh post=228919 userid=926”]Just to put things in context. West Coasts current percentage is 47.3. The lowest % in VFL/AFL history is 45.4 (St Kilda 1955), GWS in their first season were 46.2 and Fitzroy in their last season (1996) were 49.5. This indicates not just a normal cyclical “bottoming out” but a complete fall off a cliff which may take them 5 years to recover from.
The rebuild hasn’t even began yet.
Shuey wants to play on next year, spare me.