The commission’s ongoing lack of concern/care/ action about PFC zone is now completely and utterly beyond a joke.
A few years ago they told us to develop from within.
With some aggressive recruiting we made finals last year.
And with more recruiting hopefully we stay competitive.
Our zone is weak and has been for years. Rely on our zone. What a joke.
Look at colts score today.
#fixthezone
STT considering Perth zone has produced multiple AFL draftees of late, that’s all the commission is going to see mate unfortunately. I know that shouldn’t be the benchmark, but sadly in this AFL influenced footy world… it is.
I bailed up a commissioner once on this issue. He told me that pfc have same population in our zone as other clubs.
Surely if there is an obvious problem you fix it. WAFC causes more problems than it fixes.
Jesus wept.
Is the problem the zone or Perth’s engagement with the zone?
There was some pretty large criticism of Perth’s engagement with their Junior clubs at the WAFC Inquiry.
TT thanks for engaging on the subject but that is an old WAFC line they gets trotted out and swallowed by some.
PFC is much like other wafl clubs, same kind of people involved etc etc. We engage with the zone in same way every other wafl club does.
It’s not the club mate, it’s the zone.
Considering Perth’s Futures are sitting pretty in 3rd possie on the ladder with a 4/1 win loss tally, not sure the commission are going to be sympathetic to your Jesus tears STT…does the problem lie in the transition from Futures into colts into seniors?..if so, then surely that’s a club issue not a zone issue…well that’s what the commission will think…especially with all Perth’s recent AFL draftees and a competitive Futures side…
[quote=“Stand the Test post=203067”]TT thanks for engaging on the subject but that is an old WAFC line they gets trotted out and swallowed by some.
PFC is much like other wafl clubs, same kind of people involved etc etc. We engage with the zone in same way every other wafl club does.
It’s not the club mate, it’s the zone.
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Interesting response given that the criticism of Perths junior engagement at the WAFC Inquiry was discussed by a Junior Club President in the Perth District and Perth Board Member. Similar feedback has been provided on this forum by ammo clubs in the Perth District.
But I guess it’s easier to blame the zone and the WAFC rather than looking internally and asking why your talented juniors aren’t transferring into Colts and seniors.
Wanna swap zones TT?
Now that would be interesting.
Haha funny how people have alot to say about zones until you ask them to swap
So true bud.
[quote=“Freezin post=203086”]Considering Perth’s Futures are sitting pretty in 3rd possie on the ladder with a 4/1 win loss tally, not sure the commission are going to be sympathetic to your Jesus tears STT…does the problem lie in the transition from Futures into colts into seniors?..if so, then surely that’s a club issue not a zone issue…well that’s what the commission will think…especially with all Perth’s recent AFL draftees and a competitive Futures side…
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freezin in what way do AFL draftees help a WAFL club? Notwithstanding it is hard to judge the relative strength of colts’ teams so early in the season, how should the WAFC react to the result of the Perth colts from yesterday?
Also, what is the incentive for a WAFL club to help develop junior clubs within a WAFL club’s zone given the WAFC can arbitrarily remove that junior club from that WAFL club’s zone?
42 not sure where I said AFL draftees “help” their respective WAFL clubs, just highlighted that a probable benchmark for KPI on zone productivity for the AFL influenced WAFL commission would be number of AFL draftees from each WAFL club…which Perth has had recently…and surely performances of a club’s Futures squad would be taken into consideration..though understand completely that can change hugely from one year to the next…but who’s to say the commission know that…you SD fans have complained bitterly about inequality of your zones for years, yet the club continues to have youngsters drafted and a successful Futures program transitioning into colts…surely that must be reasoning why the commission does nothing in addressing your SD fans zone concerns…can’t think of any other…can you?
Before the zone is looked at/fixed how about getting a decent sized working scoreboard, a time clock & a wind sock (not too mention fixing that sand pit at the NE end)…maybe when all of those essentials are provided for WAFL supporters at Lathlain (Eagle) Park then they can have a look at the zone!
For at least 4-5 seasons now since the Eagles have taken over the place and the old (great) scoreboard was demolished it has been amateur hour at the ground for our games with no scoreboard (or decent one at the very least), time clock or wind sock…bloody not good enough!
Perth FC’s website shows that they have 12 Senior Community Clubs (I note that Queens Park FC is not listed) and 12 Junior Clubs in their district.
The President of South Perth JFC tells the Parliamentary Inquiry that he hasn’t seen anyone from Perth FC in 5 or 6 years - and he’s been on Perth FC Board for 18 months.
In my Senior Community Club, this is the sum total of any contact from Perth FC in the past 10 years:
Please tell us all again how much Perth FC does in their District!!!
What you get out of something is directly proportional to what you put in - when you put all but nothing in, you get all but nothing back.
How about your each Directors are given 2 or 3 Community Clubs each to visit 2 or 3 times per year (game day, training night, pre-season, Committee Meeting - you choose which) and report back to your Committee Meeting monthly on who they went to.
We don’t need or want your money - it’s not about that.
It’s about showing just a little respect to the Clubs you NEED players to come from.
A post from the Perth District Zone coal face…geez that’s pretty piss poor IF true mate…I say IF, because whilst I believe your post is no doubt 100% true mate…I have a feeling some of these Oz Footy Perth boys, who probably haven’t even set foot in a community footy club within their beloved Demons zone, will dispute what you are saying Birdman…surely that’s not how Bobby runs his ship?
Be interested in hearing from other posters who coach or have coached juniors/seniors/country within a WAFL clubs zone, what involvement/interaction/engagement they had/have with that WAFL club overseeing that zone…hopefully Birdman’s post isn’t the tip of the iceberg…because in all honesty the WAFL and the clubs need to be as proactive as possible within their community especially in this day n age of AFL footy.
I know that East Perth joins up with Swans and perth when it gets the later stages of the junior comp and this due to numbers for teams, in the year 10 conference there are 2 teams from the three clubs.
I was told that when the 15’s futures first training session we had abt 50 kids come down, another coastal club had 150.
You can rearrange the metro boundaries all you like but there clubs who will benefit from being in the coastal strip and those who are in older areas where the demographical regenerative processes are the influences on whether there are enough kids who want to play football, it was suggested that in some areas there will more girls wanting to play than boys due to the population issues.
East Perth have been saved over many years by having a country zone that has provided many a player especially at the underage level. Our current colts team is fairly well balanced between both groups but usually it is the SW providing the bulk of players.
We all have issues, the Swannies folk want Ellenbrook back, Perth want Sorrento/Duncraig but we cannot have what we want, we have to make an effort with what we have … and if you don’t then …
[quote=“Grump post=203173”]I know that East Perth joins up with Swans and perth when it gets the later stages of the junior comp and this due to numbers for teams, in the year 10 conference there are 2 teams from the three clubs.
I was told that when the 15’s futures first training session we had abt 50 kids come down, another coastal club had 150.
You can rearrange the metro boundaries all you like but there clubs who will benefit from being in the coastal strip and those who are in older areas where the demographical regenerative processes are the influences on whether there are enough kids who want to play football, it was suggested that in some areas there will more girls wanting to play than boys due to the population issues.
East Perth have been saved over many years by having a country zone that has provided many a player especially at the underage level. Our current colts team is fairly well balanced between both groups but usually it is the SW providing the bulk of players.
We all have issues, the Swannies folk want Ellenbrook back, Perth want Sorrento/Duncraig but we cannot have what we want, we have to make an effort with what we have … and if you don’t then …
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Let’s speak to the Ellenbrook club. Which WAFL club helped develop that junior footy club for many years? I repeat why would a WAFL club put the time, money, personnel and effort to develop a junior footy club when on a whim the WAFC can move it out of the club’s zone?
Did the Redcliffe junior footy club want to be removed from the Swans’s zone? Did the Redcliffe junior footy club make their wishes known to those who made the decision to remove the club from Swans?
Swan42, I think that all junior clubs have preferences and it would be good if their wants could be met, just like the senior clubs but whilst we have a WAFC that doesn’t see and issue then as I sad work with what we have and make it the best we can.
[quote=“Grump post=203176”]Swan42, I think that all junior clubs have preferences and it would be good if their wants could be met, just like the senior clubs but whilst we have a WAFC that doesn’t see and issue then as I sad work with what we have and make it the best we can.
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Do the WAFL clubs have control of what happens with respect to junior footy in their respective zones?
Pretty sure they do but the district they get is down to the WAFC