88 red 35 blue team and counting FMD. Australia is screwed.
DD I am a labour voter but i did not expect this outcome.
I wonder whether it was a vote against Dutton and or the Liberals, I think it was both, Watching Sky even the former Victorian Liberal President who in the scheme of the party hierarchy you would think is or was fairly powerful said that it was both a lack of leadership and a lack of coherent policies. He was a bit rabid about dirty politics but as the moderator said both sides are guilty of that! Equally on the rabid lefty ABC the same comments were made.
The biggest issue for us as a country now is not who is in power but navigating the world economic landscape and the flow on effects of the US recession that most pundits both in the US and the rest of the world are predicting.
Looks like a new direction for the LNP.
Back in the Howard era.All ministers where from the Religious Right of the party,apart from Turnbull +Julie Bishop.
Whos left,Senator Cash + Andrew Hastie.
While Trumps President.That will stop the LNP from shifting further to the right.
Start the rebuild by winning the Victorian state election.
The Queensland LNP believe they lost about 3% of the vote to One Nation.Trying to stay in the centre of polotics.
I’m too depressed to talk about it. Silver linings are always good things to look for when all hope seems lost. Greens 0 seats and Labor’s clear majority means they can go full steam ahead and really punish Australians for being so dumb. That’s probably the coalition’s only hope going forward.
As a LIB/coalition voter I can only say that the party had a leader who was unelectable even when compared to Elbows and a newks policy that just didn’t sit well with most voters plus a poorly run mostly negative campaign handing the election to Labor on a silver plate. The only good thing as mentioned is that the party voted into power by a significant majority wont be held to ransom by loony extremists like the greens, one nation or a raft of green leaning Teals. The other major factor in this election was the Trump effect. Any right leaning political party anywhere in the world will be adversely affected by this Orange fuckwit with a God complex. He almost single handedly changed the face of Canadian politics, has seen what should have been a very close Australian election become a Labor landslide and will no doubt affect all levels of UK elections starting with the UK council elections which are very party political.
In these times of world wide uncertainty created by Trump and his MAGAgots, voters will tend towards seeking stability and what they know, even if it’s not the greatest solution, but one they recognise and feel more secure with.
The size of the victory means Labor already gave 2028 sewn up. It will be virtually impossible for the LNP to win the required seats.
While this may sound like doom and gloom, they really need to get rid of the remnants of the Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison era and have new members and ideas about the future direction of the party. Whoever is selected to replace Dutton is certain to lose in 2028, but if they can reduce the number of seats by half then they may have a chance in 2031. If economic conditions improve, interest rates drop and a change of president in America to someone more stable mentally occur in that time, it could be well into the next decade before an LNP government win a federal election again.
[quote=“swansfan4life post=242673 userid=903”]The size of the victory means Labor already gave 2028 sewn up. It will be virtually impossible for the LNP to win the required seats.
While this may sound like doom and gloom, they really need to get rid of the remnants of the Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison era and have new members and ideas about the future direction of the party. Whoever is selected to replace Dutton is certain to lose in 2028, but if they can reduce the number of seats by half then they may have a chance in 2031. If economic conditions improve, interest rates drop and a change of president in America to someone more stable mentally occur in that time, it could be well into the next decade before an LNP government win a federal election again.
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The way preferences seem to go, it is looking like it is going to be a very, very long time before a right wing coalition win a federal election again in this country.
[quote=“Senior Seagull post=242671 userid=922”]As a LIB/coalition voter I can only say that the party had a leader who was unelectable even when compared to Elbows and a newks policy that just didn’t sit well with most voters plus a poorly run mostly negative campaign handing the election to Labor on a silver plate. The only good thing as mentioned is that the party voted into power by a significant majority wont be held to ransom by loony extremists like the greens, one nation or a raft of green leaning Teals. The other major factor in this election was the Trump effect. Any right leaning political party anywhere in the world will be adversely affected by this Orange fuckwit with a God complex. He almost single handedly changed the face of Canadian politics, has seen what should have been a very close Australian election become a Labor landslide and will no doubt affect all levels of UK elections starting with the UK council elections which are very party political.
In these times of world wide uncertainty created by Trump and his MAGAgots, voters will tend towards seeking stability and what they know, even if it’s not the greatest solution, but one they recognise and feel more secure with.
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On the subject of F.wits,fancy the fat slob Clive thinking that using the Orange imbecile as a standard bearer and perceived winning formula for his hapless party,really shows his inability to read the room,and it’s obscene to see one meglamaniac Nobhead,have the capacity to squander millions on fruitless campaigns,while most people are struggling to make ends meet.
[quote=“Senior Seagull post=242671 userid=922”]I can only say that the party had a leader who was unelectable even when compared to Elbows and a newks policy that just didn’t sit well with most voters plus a poorly run mostly negative campaign handing the election to Labor on a silver plate.
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You have nailed it right there
That and his no more work from home policy.
All the working mums loved that one. And there are lots of them
RL back in the late 1970’s at Oxford University.Two students wrote the formula for the New Labor movement.
Moving the party from a Centre Left party to a right to centre party.Moving out of the 1950’s.
Moving away from a Whitlam type government to a Hawk,Keating,Albo government.
That was Tony Blaire and Dr Geoff Gallop.
Labor Governments where a train wreck in UK,Au,Nz and Canada.And rairly governed and didnt last long in office.
Young Conservatives need to rewright the party doctorine for the LNP.Thats the only way they can combat the Teals.Who have turned them into Country,rural party.Wiped them out of the citys.The LNP now look like an old party with old ideas.
[quote=“DG post=242684 userid=857”]That and his no more work from home policy.
All the working mums loved that one. And there are lots of themselves
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Meanwhile businesses in the city are deserted and the joint is overrun with hobo’s.
Now the election is over I can ask Albo what’s happened to his promise to introduce protection to the gig economy workers who are exploited by Uber. Funny how that one has faded away quietly.
dutton has handed elbow a poison chalice. lets see what elbow delivers, another trillion dollars of debt with all of his promises. nothing will change because he cant change a bloody thing. cost of living / crime / homelesness and insurance costs. nothing will chage.
The way preferences seem to go, it is looking like it is going to be a very, very long time before a right wing coalition win a federal election again in this country.
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Spot on TM. The way things are currently structured, It’s the coalition against Labor, Greens and Teals who are all preferencing each other. I can’t see a conservative government for a very long time.
Could be more silver linings, apparently Greens leader Adam Bandt is in a tight race to retain his seat. Probably how he likes it, tight. Lambie also at risk against Pauline’s daughter.
Looks like rural Australia still loves the coalition in particular Western Australia, South Australia most of Qld and parts of NSW and Victoria.
https://ozfooty.net/media/kunena/attachments/1749/Screenshot_20250505_072118_The West.jpg
Completely and utterly smashed, Trumps stupid Tariff war shat on Dutton big time.
Tipped a Labor majority but far bigger than I expected, polling was all pointing to that.
This is the worst Liberal result since 1949 and the betters Kevin 07 and even Hawk,
Probably the worst Liberal campaign in history, Nuclear Power - but too scared to visit Collie, Supporting Live Animal Export, opposing Tax cuts, stopping working from home and then reversing on it, almost theu wrote a set of policies designed to lose,Angus Tayor couldnt sell a economic plan to save himself despite having a cost of living crisis handed to him.
Last year they were a chance but then crashed and burned, probably around the time Trump became toxic and never recovered.
They lost the inner city rich blue ribbons to the teals and then lost the suburbs as well - including blue ribbon ones like Menzies.
Demographic change is smashing the Conservatives , this is not Howards Australia anymore, its the first election Gen X and Millenials have outnumbered other voters, immigration has changed huge swathes of City votes, Chinese voters and candidates now dominate many electorates. The old white baby boomers are fading quickly now, the dated policies of Abbott, Howard and Dutton like climate change denialism are gone forever.
How did the Trump like Trumpets go??? 1.9% LOL
With a win this big you are easily looking at another two terms of labor.
Libs have now been wiped out in the cities, WA is no longer conservative Scomo killed that - only Qld remains, even there they got smashed in the city.
This is an exetential threat for the Libs they need to rethink the brand a split with the Nationals so they can try and win the cities back might be the only hope.
[quote=“robberdog post=242610 userid=843”]have the ‘keep the sheep’ people overstepped their advertising? I hear heaps where towns,farms and all jobs etc will disappear .
If true,we all better get to woolies and coles for some lamb, ,because if Albo wins who knows what meat we can eat. we will all be wearing cotton and lycra stuff as well because there will be no more wool.
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That was a disasterous campaign that hurt the libs.
[quote=“DG post=242684 userid=857”]That and his no more work from home policy.
All the working mums loved that one. And there are lots of them
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Yep - Libs lost Women voters in huge numbers. Great one that one.
[quote=“Senior Seagull post=242671 userid=922”]As a LIB/coalition voter I can only say that the party had a leader who was unelectable even when compared to Elbows and a newks policy that just didn’t sit well with most voters plus a poorly run mostly negative campaign handing the election to Labor on a silver plate. The only good thing as mentioned is that the party voted into power by a significant majority wont be held to ransom by loony extremists like the greens, one nation or a raft of green leaning Teals. The other major factor in this election was the Trump effect. Any right leaning political party anywhere in the world will be adversely affected by this Orange fuckwit with a God complex. He almost single handedly changed the face of Canadian politics, has seen what should have been a very close Australian election become a Labor landslide and will no doubt affect all levels of UK elections starting with the UK council elections which are very party political.
In these times of world wide uncertainty created by Trump and his MAGAgots, voters will tend towards seeking stability and what they know, even if it’s not the greatest solution, but one they recognise and feel more secure with.
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Same as a Liberal Voter I actually see some poistives, one a minority gov with the greens would of been a nightmare, and like you I am glad we have a strong majoirty and the greens are now irrellevant.
Further I see this as a chance to finally purge the party of the last remnants of hard right losers, Dutton was the most conservative leader in ages, he was an epic fail, there is no mythical MAGA movement in Australia we know that for sure now.