January 11 European Time.
Decision will be announced tomorrow morning about 2AM.
Peter,you obviously don’t like ESSENDON mate.Was it the Supplements saga that did it?Or did your dislike start before that?
As for Bruce Francis,you’ve stated your opinion that he is a Nutcase,but you haven’t said why.You must have read some of his work.What in particular do you find wrong with his arguements?
Oh dear.
A long way back from here,but I’ll stay the distance this year.I know what it’s like to Win Wooden Spoons. :sick:
Grassy maybe more importantly, what is your opinion of the club you support and the very people responsible for putting the players into a situation where they are banned from the sport they’ve dedicated most of their lives to and now carry the label of “drug cheat” for the rest of their lives?
And who the fuck is Bruce Francis when he’s at home?
Bruce Francis is the guy who wrote the worksafe laws of Victoria.
Look for yourself DD.
www.bombertalk4.com then obviously the thread for Bruce.
I did say earlier in my comeback,I thought we were gone for all money.So how did ASADA get it so wrong,when CAS saw otherwise.Bruce put things in another light,which I was prepared o give a fair viewing.
It don’t mean much now though,does it?
I am not sure that ASADA did get it wrong Grassy.I remember seeing somewhere that they had to come up with that finding to allow WADA to look at the case and hand it to CAS.
Once ASADA handed down their decision then WADA stepped in.It was all worked out.
It’s all done now.I’ll keep supporting them,because now they are starting again practically.
I will however continue to enjoy the various views of fellow Essendonians on a site,not subject to the control freaks at AFL.
I cancelled my Fox subscription yesterday Grassy…absolutely no need for it now AFL footy wont be worth watching for the next few seasons. Saves me about $1400 a year…the only positive to come outta yesterday
CAS FINDINGS should be declared NULL and VOID by Bruce Francis.
To all @EssendonFC fans @ringsau @KevinHillier @SENNews @rohan_connolly @daniellonergan @Melbchief @SkyNewsRicho @TraceyLeeHolmes @theheraldsun, Bruce Francis has stripped through the CAS @wada_ama findings.
Guys
I don’t know who angers me the most – the nobodies such as Carly Crawford and David Hurley who occasionally crawl out of their holes to denigrate people, or the disgraceful CAS panellists.
Inter alia, Hurley and Crawford’s front page Herald Sun story (13 January 2016) quotes the panellists:
“All players had blood tests before the administration of the injections commenced, an exercise recommended for peptides like TB-4, and for which no other purpose other than a “sinister” one could be identified,” it said. [my emphasis]
The Panellists were quoting (para 120 iii of the judgment) from the interview between ASADA, the AFL and Essendon’s doctor De Morton. The transcript appears on page 310 of ASADA’s Interim Report. Guess what? Dr De Morton was talking about IGF-1. Dank didn’t test for TB-4. Dr De Morton did not mention TB-4 in his interview. But in a reprehensible action, the panellists substituted TB-4 for IGF-1. This unconscionable action should be enough to declare the findings null and void. There is more exposures to come but on this alone I don’t trust the Europeans as far as I could kick them. This is the type of thing ASADA did on many occasions in its Interim Report.
For those two or three people in Australia who were not leaked a copy of ASADA’s confidential Interim Report, page 310 inter alia, states:
“Of the tests conducted in respect of the players’ blood, the levels of IGF-1 (Insulin Growth Factor-1) were represented. The peculiar nature of this test was reflected in the following interview excerpts of Dr De Morton:
ASADA: What is an IGF-1
De Morton: IGF-1 is Insulin Growth Factor 1, which is – I think – is IGF-1 a banned substance … It is IGF-1 is, yeah, yeah
AFL: Well, why would you do it?
De Morton: Well, that’s right – why would you do – I mean, I haven’t done a growth hormone test for 30 years, and it’d be on a kid who isn’t growing properly, not on an – athlete. So you know, what the hell was going on.
ASADA: The fact that [IGF-1] appears – do you have to specifically test for it?
De Morton: You would have to specifically test for it … it’s not a garden variety test. I mean I’ve never ordered an IGF-1 in my life.
ASADA: Can either yourself – or perhaps [Dr De Morton] explain to me why there would be a need to check for IGF-1, sinister or otherwise?
De Morton: Well – well, I mean, you can only think sinister really.”
I have had a great day. I have knocked over two of the strands (including the cornerstone) of the cable, exposed the panellists as being unsuitable to sit in judgment on the players and probably exposed the ACC for leaking a sealed document. There is much more to come on identical lines. The strands will be ripped to pieces.
Bruce Francis
NB AFL is highlighted in yellow because it was one of only four questions asked by the AFL investigators that was deemed enlightening enough to include in the Interim Report
All players had blood tests before the administration of the injections commenced, an exercise recommended for peptides like TB-4, and for which no purpose other than a “sinister” one (the epithet) of Dr De Morton, a former club Dr) could be identified
Is there an injection that can cure the senility of this old fool even Essendon fans have had enough of him, this is Bruce Francis DD read and have a good laugh at some of his finest work.
Why did you bother quoting him then?
If you’re referring to ESSENDON fans,might be the ones with no access to Internet,or Bombertalk.
He’s barred on Bomberblitz,but that could only come as a result f the Club pulling the plug,out of fear of not toeing the AFL line.
As for your opinion of him,you keep telling us he’s a senile old fool,but you won’t give us the basis of your arguements against him,mainly personal,I suspect.
Why did you bother quoting him then?
If you’re referring to ESSENDON fans,might be the ones with no access to Internet,or Bombertalk.
He’s barred on Bomberblitz,but that could only come as a result f the Club pulling the plug,out of fear of not toeing the AFL line.
As for your opinion of him,you keep telling us he’s a senile old fool,but you won’t give us the basis of your arguements against him,mainly personal,I suspect.
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Why does he write this crap you can tell from the very first paragraph he hasn’t got a clue , this clown thinks he knows more than CAS.
I love your conspiracy theory he got banned from Bombertalk because of the AFL lol, why are you bummer supporters so deluded the AFL have been in your back corner all the way through, from the time Vlad gave Evans the heads up that ASADA was on to them to the AFL tribunal result , a result that was always going to be not guilty .
I never said I agreed with everything he said.I also said from the get go,I couldn’t keep up with all he said.
I did say however,he brought this topic into a new perspective.You keep rubbishing him,but come up with NOTHING to back your arguement.
Do go on.About that 1st paragraph,…
Essendon saga: parents appalled as AFL, Dons pursue costs against Hal Hunter
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/essend...hal-hunter-20160115-gm6l85.html#ixzz3xHcQCdvD
What a pathetic club seems like Lyndsay Tanner was full of it when he said he and Essendon really cared about the well being of former players, unless your trying to find out what was injected into you of course.
Essendon saga: parents appalled as AFL, Dons pursue costs against Hal Hunter
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/essend...hal-hunter-20160115-gm6l85.html#ixzz3xHcQCdvD
What a pathetic club seems like Lyndsay Tanner was full of it when he said he and Essendon really cared about the well being of former players, unless your trying to find out what was injected into you of course.
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Can’t get it to link to cut a long story short, the dons are pursuing costs against Hal Hunter because he took them to court to try and find out what he was injected with.
Essendon saga: parents appalled as AFL, Dons pursue costs against Hal Hunter
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/essend...hal-hunter-20160115-gm6l85.html#ixzz3xHcQCdvD
What a pathetic club seems like Lyndsay Tanner was full of it when he said he and Essendon really cared about the well being of former players, unless your trying to find out what was injected into you of course.
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Can’t get it to link to cut a long story short, the dons are pursuing costs against Hal Hunter because he took them to court to try and find out what he was injected with.
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Can only wonder the reason why PN…something more to that me thinks
Essendon saga: parents appalled as AFL, Dons pursue costs against Hal Hunter
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/essend...hal-hunter-20160115-gm6l85.html#ixzz3xHcQCdvD
What a pathetic club seems like Lyndsay Tanner was full of it when he said he and Essendon really cared about the well being of former players, unless your trying to find out what was injected into you of course.
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Can’t get it to link to cut a long story short, the dons are pursuing costs against Hal Hunter because he took them to court to try and find out what he was injected with.
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Can only wonder the reason why PN…something more to that me thinks
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Yeah there’s always something more to it in this saga, the facts are The Dons are guilty of team wide doping regime and the players were complicit in it.
Just about choked on my oats this morning when I read the article where the Hird said “don’t blame me”. FMD…how arrogant and out of this world is the bloke? Any dumb esserden supporter that believes this is as deluded as he is.
Spot on my sentiments exactly. I noted where Hird said “We” chose the wrong people to implement a supplements program. There is no “I” when it comes to accepting responsibility from James Hirds lips.
Grassy stop deflecting, when are going to grow some balls and condem the bloke chiefly responsible for this whole mess?
Never defended him once.I’m just following this from a distance really.I’ve moved on,the players are suspended,the club has to start again.For a price,I’m afraid.Like paying more for players taken Outside The Draft.
I’ll tell you this.Peter’s probably right on many things he says.I’ve just thrown the odd thing in,over the odd point or two.I threw the fishing line out once,for a good bite.Sorry Pete,couldn’t resist.I threw you back. :silly:
I just want Peter to tell me one thing though.Does he hate the club simply because of this?Or did his Hatred stem back to something before that.Fair enough he rails at the club because of this whole saga,but if there’s something else before this,I’d love to know.Derek Kickett’s Grand Final Omission?That’s a whole new(refreshed)topic,even 22 and a bit years on.
I hated the Eagles over their off field shenanigans 10 years back and their Bullshit over it.I still hate Nisbett and Co upstairs,but despite my opposition to their playing fortunes(and Fremantle’s for that matter),I don’t hate the players,except when they’re naughty boys.Bit like Bwian weally. :lol:
Now it’s my turn to cop it sweet!So long as it doesn’t get Vicious!
As usual Grassy you deflect by throwing challenges, asking questions of others and avoid questions thrown at you. PN doesn’t or didn’t have any AGENDA against Essendon prior to this doping saga raring it’s ugly head that I know of. Just like any lover of the game we don’t like the attention it gets and we have developed a hatred for James Hird and anyone who defends him and tries to deny any wrong doing.
You have avoided my challenge to you twice now. Do you condemn James Hird and hold him responsible for ruining Essendon and the lives of 34 footballers and casting a huge dark cloud over the game?