Big test v Subiaco

After a tough encounter against what many regard as the biggest challenger to a 2019 Subiaco premiership and just falling short, we face an even bigger challenge on Thursday night. Dumb fixture means both sides have to backup on a 5 day break so I probably expect a few changes. I think if our boys back themselves in and don’t feel intimidated by Subiaco then I give ourselves a chance in a two horse race if our forward line clicks. Surely the teams will be named tonight?

Can’t wait for this game. I reckon we can take it right up to the cheats.

Someone has to beat these morons st some stage when it was not expected just to keep comp a bit interesting.
They are like Easter islanders cutting down the trees. One day they’ll look around and go oops we’ve got the biggest pile and now we’re fuct.
So dumb.
Go demons, strike a blow for honesty and working hard and for blue collar blokes who come off the tools to get to training.

What, so you think Subi players just rely on their footy income? go ask Horse what he feels like at training after finishing a day on the tools as a rigger or Rhys Waters as a sparky and I could go on, then look at your own clubs history with the salary cap back in 2008 before you start making unfounded accusations. You are a complete numpty who has no idea whats going on at your own club let along others.

These morons just can’t help themselves can they. Apparently now we are not allowed to discuss the stink around subi on our own thread without them coming across to piss in our pockets and tell us it’s raining.

They want to be the working class heroes along with being the silvertails, it never ends.

Oh and SS if you can post anything to the effect that PFC breached the salary cap in 2008 or any other year I’d be very interested because it has never happened.

Believe me or don’t believe me but DF and others who think these guys are just poor old footy fans who are unfairly maligned, forget it, they are subi supporters who would rather see the comp fold than their team lose and they give as good as they get plus some.

And Nuggets stop trying to reason with them brother they will agree, agree, agree, agree until you reach the point with them that something should actually change.

BC admits that his club’s dominance is hurting the comp - what does he do? Crap on about this and that but never confronts the issue.

Pretty sure the Subi fans have as much control or say in Subi’s success, as Perth fans have had in Perth’s failure since 77
It’s pretty simple STT come end of the day…Perth just need to raise their standard to meet Subi’s every day benchmark…no 3rd quarter sleepy bo bo’s …crack open the PFC war chest and the WAFL world will be your oyster…

Ok Freez, good suggestion, let’s hope PFC can one day be as good as subi and win 110% of its games.

STT, to be fair, BC has come up with some ideas that might reduce Subi’s dominance a bit, al least so far as not picking off other WAFL players which is the one thing that most opposition fans find most galling. And turning to Freeze: there was a video that went viral a while ago where a teenage girl was asked about the homeless problem. She said “Why don’t they just buy a house?” Your repeated comments that other clubs simply need to raise their standards to meet Subi are equally glib and asinine. The grand plan as formulated by Freeze: get getter and you will win more. Why hasn’t your club simply raised their standard? Why haven’t SD? Could it be that they are not generating $4m in revenue?

I wasn’t going to get involved in this discussion TN but given this thread is supposed to be about our upcoming game between us and you guys I’d like to make the comment that I would love to see the cycle of clubs rising and falling on the ladder over time become the norm once again. Subi’s long period of success isn’t great for the comp and anyone who says different is kidding themselves in a WAFL which is struggling to stay relevant. What I don’t accept is that it’s up to the likes of me as a member and supporter of Subi or the club itself to implement changes to make that happen. It’s up to the WAFC and to StT and his ilk who want to point the finger at me or anyone else who happens to support my club then you are misguided and delusional. I don’t make the rules, my club doesn’t make the rules…start directing your vitriol at those who do. Good luck tomorrow night TN…I hope its a great game notwithstanding the shithouse fixturing which would have seen probably 2500 plus if it was played on Saturday.

Someone has to beat these morons st some stage when it was not expected just to keep comp a bit interesting.
They are like Easter islanders cutting down the trees. One day they’ll look around and go oops we’ve got the biggest pile and now we’re fuct.
So dumb.
Go demons, strike a blow for honesty and working hard and for blue collar blokes who come off the tools to get to training.
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You wont win even with half our side out

Stand the Test, you are embarrassing yourself and by association, all
Perth supporters.

Interesting people automatically associate achieving Sub’s benchmark standards to finances…yep money helps…but Subi under Bunton then Germon, Webb and Schofield raised the expectations of the players standards training wise, character wise etc which have driven the clubs success just as much as their bank balance surely?..Just because mum and dad are millionaires does that mean their kids are going to driven committed individuals?..or if ones parents are poor does that mean their kids are lazy shits?

Subi have been fortunate with their coaching selections that a winning culture has been able to be developed and maintained over a sustained period of time…some thing Perth haven’t done since 78…Wiley, McMahon,Magro, Jarman et al have been shown to be shite coaching appts…same as Dunbar, LesterSmith, Wiley et al for EF since 98…Malaxos raised the bar during his coaching tenure at EF resulting in a GF, pre Lin and Foxtel GF appearances…hopefully Monaghan can raise EF standards to Subi’s benchmark…yep money helps but hey recruiting wise the likes of De la Hunty, Boland, Kitchen Phelan came with no AFL fanfare…Lockyer, Litherland and Menagola came to Subi with failed AFL careers…not Subi’s fault they landed on their feet…Pretty sure the likes of Graham, Morton x 3, Davis etc came with better footy CVs than all those Subi recruits…yet no interest in improving the club on and off the footy field…once again not Subi’s fault…

Raising standards isn’t all about money in my eyes, I only mentioned Perth needing to crack open the war chest because a lot of folk here thinks getting a far paycheck means you will get an individual of sound character?..perhaps of ability…but ability can only take you so far…just ask Graham and the Morton boys…Subi have recruited well, way better than the rest…but besides Clarke, Rix, Chick and Read who else has come to the club with high profile footy CVs?..to me the coaching appts since the early 80s have been Subi’s greatest strength…anyway would the Perth boys be even chatting about unfair advantages or WAFL inequality if Perth were winning like Subi have done…naagh don’t think so…as for the homeless comparison argument Ted…you gotta be farking kidding me…Pretty sure there has been a greater loss of life, higher incident of depression self harm, physical/mental abuse and drug abuse related to th he homeless argument then following the PFC…but then again…LOL

DG we live in hope that the Subi players, coaching staff come to Lathlain tonight with same arrogant attitude.
The DEES will have their day with your lot.
Although I would prefer you to turn up to a GF with that arrogance.

SS PFC have never paid their players above salary cap.
PFC have never paid their players out of paper bags.
You cannot sustain Subi’s level of player strength without paying them above what any other club can afford and do it within your salary cap.
You have cheated for so long you have forgotten the rules.
Please spare us the bullshit.

Ted don’t fall for BC mr reasonable routine. Let’s say you go with his big idea and clubs can only recruit from clubs above them on the ladder. This means that basically the team that finishes second, which can only recruit from subi, good luck, can never catch subi. It would suit them long run because there would very little player movement at all. Now if only premier can’t recruit then we are talking. But uncle BuCk won’t like it.

Freeze, you are obtuse as well as glib: the homeless analogy was designed to demonstrate how facile your “raise the standard” mantra is, not to compare WAFL inequality with homelessness. And Baseline, I think there is some merit in having a crack at Subi. Unless their administrators are living in a bubble, they must be aware of the growing discontent with their continued dominance. Unless they are utterly bloody-minded, they must have some regard to it. As I have said before, I disagree that the situation is completely out of Subi’s hands. They have a choice whether to recruit or develop from within and maybe an awareness of the mood of WAFL fans might lead them to pursue the latter. It seems Townsend reads Oz Footy and he has reported a couple of times about the negative impact of Subi’s dominance. The WAFC, as AFL focussed as they are, also cannot be completely immune from public opinion. It is an issue all WAFL fans should be concerned about and this type of forum gives us a chance to raise those concerns.

STT, I think the recruit from teams that finished above has some possible merit provided it is averaged out over a few years, not season by season. For example, let’s say Perth finish 5th this yeas and WP 6th. We are in a position where this policy of using home grown talent has exhausted itself and we need to recruit to push us into a position where we can hope to be that team that gets flogged by Subi in the GF. It would be a pretty poor state of affairs if, on the strength of just one reasonable season, we were unable to recruit someone like, say Keitel. Plus I think a points loading would be better than a blanket ban. Let’s say Subi want McInnes. Averaged over the last 5 years, Subi has been first and we have been 9th. So McInnes would come with a double transfer fee and 8 additional points. If SD wanted him, SD would be probably 7th over the last 5 years, so he would only cost them 20% extra transfer and 2 extra points.

TN…why would Subi as a club assume the role of the WAFC and deliberately lower their standards of performance to even out the competition? That’s a bizarre notion…Subi has debuted 6 new players from last years reserves this year and is subject to the same points cap as everyone else with the exception of your club from memory which means they are forced to develop locals to stay within the 130 points…so not sure what you’re talking about. Anyway, this is probably better in a dedicated thread somewhere else so back to the topic…good luck tonight…it should be a nice evening if not a little cool. Here’s hoping for a good game. I’m not across your in’s and out’s and what they mean to the playing group but we’re still missing a few and those who came up last week from our ressies did a pretty good job so think it will be very competitive.

Can’t stop laughing at Ted’s portrayal of PFC’s aspirations being to “be the team that gets flogged by Subi in the GF.”

Alright boys, we’ve got a great squad together here, let’s work hard and have a big year and maybe just maybe you can be the team that gets flogged by Subi in the GF.

Gold.

DG we live in hope that the Subi players, coaching staff come to Lathlain tonight with same arrogant attitude.
The DEES will have their day with your lot.
Although I would prefer you to turn up to a GF with that arrogance.
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Don’t worry DF they won’t since I flicked a few of the boys a copy of StD comment they are keen to give you a 10+ goal hiding