WAFL salary cap slashed??

[Bazza]

Listened to Sports FM in the lead up to yesterdays Prelim, they mentioned that the AFL decreed that all state leagues must cut their salary caps by 30%!! Sounds like a done deal, but as you would expect the independent thinking SANFL are yet to agree. WTF are the AFL doing sticking their unwanted noses into WAFL clubs affairs, has the Commission once again bent over and taken it up the shute from the AFL? WA salary cap will now be around $200k, not great when so many players will be delisted from AFL lists and looking for a new home. Cashed up clubs like EP & Perth will be affected, Subi, as far as I know cant recruit so wont affect us, although DG mentioned it was just for 2020.

I’ll be onto my club asking what’s happening and what they intend to do, if anything. The probable influx of delisted players would be a great thing for the comp, raising the standards which cant be a bad thing. They also mentioned a renewed push to dump the ressies. FMD why??? leave OUR comp alone. The best way to ensure the WAFL’s future is for the WCE & Freo to provide additional funding, Despite the expected $14mill loss by WC they will still have north of $35 mill cash at hand. It seems certain most/all clubs will be caretakers for the AFL leftovers, maybe that’s why they think they can slash the cap.

Not happy Jan!!
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Since when has EP been cashed up? as far as I know they struggle cash wise.

[Bazza]

TRSM in order to be “creative” with player payments you need to have the resources in the first place.
Subi have found a way because they have the resources not available to other Clubs.
It will take years for their resources to diminish.
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They have future fund worth millions, they will be around for years cashed up. Even though their membership base has fallen in recent years.

There are ways around the salary cap, White Goods, Leased Cars, Paid off Credit Cards,Bar Tabs all sorts of methods.

[Bazza]

Still waiting for an example of sanfl going it alone on anything significant in say last 30 years.

So the sanfl didn’t want to join the afl but were ‘forced’ to do so by one of its clubs??? Solid organisation doing its own thing!

And yes I realised the no port thing this year (their 150th) was ‘out of sanfl’s control’, that is kind of my point.
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Purchased Football Park - WAFL never bought anything
Refused the VFL to join the expanded Comp in 1987 and pay the rip off fee - WAFL Joined and paid huge money and went bust 2 years later.
SANFL Crows join and at a much reduced licence fee years later.
SANFL Clubs allowed to have pokies ensuring financial streams
SANFL Crowds remain double that of WAFL on average.
SANFL do deal with SACA shared ownership of Adelaide Oval, sell Football Park for huge profit as land, Play SANFL GF At Adelaide Oval free of charge - WAFC do deal with Optus and now have to pay $100K plus to use it for WAFL GF , no GF at Optus this year.
SANFL sells Crows licence back to AFL for millions, decouples and establishes future fund. WAFL allows WCE to amass 50 Million in Bank - no control over Eagles funds and is currently the subject of parliamentary inquiry.

I could go on…

[Bazza]

@Mel

@mikeh

Well they did decide to start their competition in Late June rather than Mid July like the WAFC did. That was an extra 3 weeks of footy for the Croweaters. Also they are not playing their Grand Final till 18th October, so an extra 2 weeks at this end of the season as well. So 5 weeks extra play is a big difference I would have thought and a reflection on how pathetic the WAFC has been with planning for this season.

The decision to start the season later and have less games was not a WAFC decision. It was 100% a WAFL club decision. Some clubs didn’t want a season at all.

There should of been an earlier start and more games, waiting that long was utter BS.

And now the GF clashes with the only eagles finals on same weekend in Perth… should of avoided that.

[Senior_Seagull]

@Bazza

Listened to Sports FM in the lead up to yesterdays Prelim, they mentioned that the AFL decreed that all state leagues must cut their salary caps by 30%!! Sounds like a done deal, but as you would expect the independent thinking SANFL are yet to agree. WTF are the AFL doing sticking their unwanted noses into WAFL clubs affairs, has the Commission once again bent over and taken it up the shute from the AFL? WA salary cap will now be around $200k, not great when so many players will be delisted from AFL lists and looking for a new home. Cashed up clubs like EP & Perth will be affected, Subi, as far as I know cant recruit so wont affect us, although DG mentioned it was just for 2020.

I’ll be onto my club asking what’s happening and what they intend to do, if anything. The probable influx of delisted players would be a great thing for the comp, raising the standards which cant be a bad thing. They also mentioned a renewed push to dump the ressies. FMD why??? leave OUR comp alone. The best way to ensure the WAFL’s future is for the WCE & Freo to provide additional funding, Despite the expected $14mill loss by WC they will still have north of $35 mill cash at hand. It seems certain most/all clubs will be caretakers for the AFL leftovers, maybe that’s why they think they can slash the cap.

Not happy Jan!!

Since when has EP been cashed up? as far as I know they struggle cash wise.
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Since they were aligned with WC and didn’t have to pay for coaches most support staff and many of their players. They made big profits towards the end of the alignment years, that’s what saved the club from going under and the reason for the alignment.

[Senior_Seagull]

@Bazza

TRSM in order to be “creative” with player payments you need to have the resources in the first place.
Subi have found a way because they have the resources not available to other Clubs.
It will take years for their resources to diminish.

They have future fund worth millions, they will be around for years cashed up. Even though their membership base has fallen in recent years.

There are ways around the salary cap, White Goods, Leased Cars, Paid off Credit Cards,Bar Tabs all sorts of methods.
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Dont forget Cicco’s brown paper bag caper.

[ROYAL_2019]

East Perth have plenty in reserve, but don’t spend it as recklessly as in the past. I hope we have learnt from the past anyway.

[therealswansman]

@Bazza

TRSM in order to be “creative” with player payments you need to have the resources in the first place.
Subi have found a way because they have the resources not available to other Clubs.
It will take years for their resources to diminish.

They have future fund worth millions, they will be around for years cashed up. Even though their membership base has fallen in recent years.

There are ways around the salary cap, White Goods, Leased Cars, Paid off Credit Cards,Bar Tabs all sorts of methods.
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Visa Debit cards you can load up and give as Gifts is the most popoular way.

[Bazza]

@therealswansman

@Bazza

TRSM in order to be “creative” with player payments you need to have the resources in the first place.
Subi have found a way because they have the resources not available to other Clubs.
It will take years for their resources to diminish.

They have future fund worth millions, they will be around for years cashed up. Even though their membership base has fallen in recent years.

There are ways around the salary cap, White Goods, Leased Cars, Paid off Credit Cards,Bar Tabs all sorts of methods.

Visa Debit cards you can load up and give as Gifts is the most popoular way.
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Yep that is what I meant by paid off credit cards

[Bazza]

@Bazza

TRSM in order to be “creative” with player payments you need to have the resources in the first place.
Subi have found a way because they have the resources not available to other Clubs.
It will take years for their resources to diminish.

They have future fund worth millions, they will be around for years cashed up. Even though their membership base has fallen in recent years.

There are ways around the salary cap, White Goods, Leased Cars, Paid off Credit Cards,Bar Tabs all sorts of methods.
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Dont forget Cicco’s brown paper bag caper.
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Would of contained some fruit and veg unlike subis that had wads of cash.

[Grump]

There are legitimate ways to reduce a players payments, get them a good job!

[royallucky]

@Grump

There are legitimate ways to reduce a players payments, get them a good job!

For some reason we used have on our previous lists a high proportion of car salesmen!!!

[gtrxuone]

@Bazza

Still waiting for an example of sanfl going it alone on anything significant in say last 30 years.

So the sanfl didn’t want to join the afl but were ‘forced’ to do so by one of its clubs??? Solid organisation doing its own thing!

And yes I realised the no port thing this year (their 150th) was ‘out of sanfl’s control’, that is kind of my point.

Purchased Football Park - WAFL never bought anything
Refused the VFL to join the expanded Comp in 1987 and pay the rip off fee - WAFL Joined and paid huge money and went bust 2 years later.
SANFL Crows join and at a much reduced licence fee years later.
SANFL Clubs allowed to have pokies ensuring financial streams
SANFL Crowds remain double that of WAFL on average.
SANFL do deal with SACA shared ownership of Adelaide Oval, sell Football Park for huge profit as land, Play SANFL GF At Adelaide Oval free of charge - WAFC do deal with Optus and now have to pay $100K plus to use it for WAFL GF , no GF at Optus this year.
SANFL sells Crows licence back to AFL for millions, decouples and establishes future fund. WAFL allows WCE to amass 50 Million in Bank - no control over Eagles funds and is currently the subject of parliamentary inquiry.

I could go on…
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Good reply Bazza.I think the 35 million the AFL paid for the Crows licence. The SANFL put in to the Adelaide Oval redevelopment.. That must be why they get such a good deal at AO.Or there part owners of AO.
Did the Crows pay 2 million to join the AFL.$500,000 by 4 years.West Coast and Brisbane played double up front.

[Stand_the_Test]

@ArkRoyal

PA should have been expelled
they have lost control of their clubs
they needed financial support from the VFL
they have lost PA --see Ebert’s comments
they have lost WT and Woodville
they have a higher salary cap than us
and yet, struggle to beat us in state football
they are that supportive of their own league, you don’t even have to play in it to get drafted
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Just some of the achievements of the SANFL in recent decades

Yeah no offence to the rest of you but Ark is all over it. Sanfl as pissweak as wafc. Worse maybe.

Seriously a lot of you blokes know zero about what you post. Sanfl does it’s own thing and we can learn a lesson. Pull the other one.

[Senior_Seagull]

@Bazza

@Bazza

TRSM in order to be “creative” with player payments you need to have the resources in the first place.
Subi have found a way because they have the resources not available to other Clubs.
It will take years for their resources to diminish.

They have future fund worth millions, they will be around for years cashed up. Even though their membership base has fallen in recent years.

There are ways around the salary cap, White Goods, Leased Cars, Paid off Credit Cards,Bar Tabs all sorts of methods.

Dont forget Cicco’s brown paper bag caper.
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Would of contained some fruit and veg unlike subis that had wads of cash.
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I always wondered what the freo mafia used as a term for moolah B)

[DD]

@Bazza

Still waiting for an example of sanfl going it alone on anything significant in say last 30 years.

So the sanfl didn’t want to join the afl but were ‘forced’ to do so by one of its clubs??? Solid organisation doing its own thing!

And yes I realised the no port thing this year (their 150th) was ‘out of sanfl’s control’, that is kind of my point.

Purchased Football Park - WAFL never bought anything
Refused the VFL to join the expanded Comp in 1987 and pay the rip off fee - WAFL Joined and paid huge money and went bust 2 years later.
SANFL Crows join and at a much reduced licence fee years later.
SANFL Clubs allowed to have pokies ensuring financial streams
SANFL Crowds remain double that of WAFL on average.
SANFL do deal with SACA shared ownership of Adelaide Oval, sell Football Park for huge profit as land, Play SANFL GF At Adelaide Oval free of charge - WAFC do deal with Optus and now have to pay $100K plus to use it for WAFL GF , no GF at Optus this year.
SANFL sells Crows licence back to AFL for millions, decouples and establishes future fund. WAFL allows WCE to amass 50 Million in Bank - no control over Eagles funds and is currently the subject of parliamentary inquiry.

I could go on…
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That’s what happens when you let a bunch of freeloaders looking for a free lunch and a lanyard that says I’m a Very Important Person who gets to roam around Football Headquarters whenever and wherever they like run football.

They are not true WAFL believers. They’re in it for the free lunch and the lanyard.

[Demons_Forever]

@royallucky

@Grump

There are legitimate ways to reduce a players payments, get them a good job!

For some reason we used have on our previous lists a high proportion of car salesmen!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Bazza]

@gtrxuone

@Bazza

Still waiting for an example of sanfl going it alone on anything significant in say last 30 years.

So the sanfl didn’t want to join the afl but were ‘forced’ to do so by one of its clubs??? Solid organisation doing its own thing!

And yes I realised the no port thing this year (their 150th) was ‘out of sanfl’s control’, that is kind of my point.

Purchased Football Park - WAFL never bought anything
Refused the VFL to join the expanded Comp in 1987 and pay the rip off fee - WAFL Joined and paid huge money and went bust 2 years later.
SANFL Crows join and at a much reduced licence fee years later.
SANFL Clubs allowed to have pokies ensuring financial streams
SANFL Crowds remain double that of WAFL on average.
SANFL do deal with SACA shared ownership of Adelaide Oval, sell Football Park for huge profit as land, Play SANFL GF At Adelaide Oval free of charge - WAFC do deal with Optus and now have to pay $100K plus to use it for WAFL GF , no GF at Optus this year.
SANFL sells Crows licence back to AFL for millions, decouples and establishes future fund. WAFL allows WCE to amass 50 Million in Bank - no control over Eagles funds and is currently the subject of parliamentary inquiry.

I could go on…

Good reply Bazza.I think the 35 million the AFL paid for the Crows licence. The SANFL put in to the Adelaide Oval redevelopment.. That must be why they get such a good deal at AO.Or there part owners of AO.
Did the Crows pay 2 million to join the AFL.$500,000 by 4 years.West Coast and Brisbane played double up front.
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WAFL via Indian Pacific and Brisbane Bears paid a mint for the Licence, they got ripped off by the VFL, within 2 years both Indian Pacfic (WAFL) and the Bears were bankrupt.

The land at Football Park will earn the SANFL $71 Mill.

They sold the crows and power back to the AFL for a total deal of $61 Mill, 18 Mill for the licences plus 40 odd in agreed extra funding as part of the deal.

Cashed up big time.

[Grump]

@royallucky

@Grump

There are legitimate ways to reduce a players payments, get them a good job!

For some reason we used have on our previous lists a high proportion of car salesmen!!!

Houghton Ford and Southside Mitsibushi all run by AHG back then

[therealswansman]

@Bazza

@gtrxuone

@Bazza

Still waiting for an example of sanfl going it alone on anything significant in say last 30 years.

So the sanfl didn’t want to join the afl but were ‘forced’ to do so by one of its clubs??? Solid organisation doing its own thing!

And yes I realised the no port thing this year (their 150th) was ‘out of sanfl’s control’, that is kind of my point.

Purchased Football Park - WAFL never bought anything
Refused the VFL to join the expanded Comp in 1987 and pay the rip off fee - WAFL Joined and paid huge money and went bust 2 years later.
SANFL Crows join and at a much reduced licence fee years later.
SANFL Clubs allowed to have pokies ensuring financial streams
SANFL Crowds remain double that of WAFL on average.
SANFL do deal with SACA shared ownership of Adelaide Oval, sell Football Park for huge profit as land, Play SANFL GF At Adelaide Oval free of charge - WAFC do deal with Optus and now have to pay $100K plus to use it for WAFL GF , no GF at Optus this year.
SANFL sells Crows licence back to AFL for millions, decouples and establishes future fund. WAFL allows WCE to amass 50 Million in Bank - no control over Eagles funds and is currently the subject of parliamentary inquiry.

I could go on…

Good reply Bazza.I think the 35 million the AFL paid for the Crows licence. The SANFL put in to the Adelaide Oval redevelopment.. That must be why they get such a good deal at AO.Or there part owners of AO.
Did the Crows pay 2 million to join the AFL.$500,000 by 4 years.West Coast and Brisbane played double up front.

WAFL via Indian Pacific and Brisbane Bears paid a mint for the Licence, they got ripped off by the VFL, within 2 years both Indian Pacfic (WAFL) and the Bears were bankrupt.

The land at Football Park will earn the SANFL $71 Mill.

They sold the crows and power back to the AFL for a total deal of $61 Mill, 18 Mill for the licences plus 40 odd in agreed extra funding as part of the deal.

Cashed up big time.
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Former Swans Directors put forward a similar plan to the WAFL presidents to to take to the WAFC together with selling Subi Oval lease, (which by the way is what the annual Grant is for- giving up Subi) and slashing the WAFC.
We too could have been cashed up except the plan was seen as too radical for the backward thinkers at the WAFL clubs.