Just waiting on old cook to claim victory. Tha alp currently won 42 which is more than enough seats. With 9 in doubt. Been a slow count because a couple of seats not been mentioned at all.
3 hours is all it took at very most
there was a swing as we knew
but where did that go toward
Well…that’s disappointing. I’m not sure where to for the Libs from here. I guess it could be the last of the 2 party domination of politics in Australia given the rise of the Greens and independents but in saying that, I expect to be living in a cave in the not too distant future.
Maybe Labor is not so bad after all given the radical alternative.
Anthony Green reckons Basil might miss out on preferences. Winning the primary by a couple of percent but early preferences are swinging 75% Labor’s way. The independent and Green rep are polling well. Is Basil still Lord Mayor? He might be doing that for about 4 years.
Latest call from Antony Green is that Basil will get up but more importantly, that moll McGurk looks like getting rolled in my electorate which is a good thing for Freo generally.
It’s looking like another disaster for the Liberal Party. Nats might be the opposition again and Shane Love leader of the opposition. I think the Liberals need to beg Colin Barnett to make a comeback and be the Messiah to bring the Liberal Party back from the dead.
[quote=“DD post=241000 userid=1749”]What debt did Labor inherit from Barnett? I think it blew out to 37 billion but Barnett was only getting 30c in the dollar of the GST carve up. This government has been enjoying surpluses on the back of a 70 cent floor in GST yet I heard the other day our debt has blown out to 40 billion. So 8 years of Labor and most of it with a 70 cent floor in the GST carve up and still not managed to pay down our enormous debt but they beat their chest that we are driving the Australian economy.
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Not sure why folk laud barnett. He basically ignored his treasurer regarding the budget return from iron ore royalties. Barnett kept it at $100 per tonne when it was going down and was predicted to be around $70 per. The labour treasurer at the time, not sure who he was alluded to it in his retirement speech. Barnett would not listen and had to go to the bank repeatedly. The GSt was a factor but not as great as his ignorance regarding the royalties.
Basil has called the win. I have crunched the numbers. Assuming only 75% of Greens and Independents put Labor as second preference he is correct in calling it. It will be tricky if as many as 85% of them follow the how to vote card though. Historically this isn’t the way things go however and the 75% will see Bazil prevail.
So if that’s the case.
41 seats to 9 - still a lot better that the
45 to 5 that it was.
The libs went very close in Dawesville, Kal and South Perth too. Surprised they didn’t do better in Scarborough.
Winning those four would have been great 37 -13 but - At least the loony Greens haven’t picked any up.
Carey calling Zemplis polarising pathetic last night I thought.
It got heated on the TV panel between Carey and Snozzleopilas,which I thought was quite entertaining.
Libs currently have won 5 seats and look like getting to 7. Should win the Pilbara and Murray-Wellington. Not quite as disastrous as I thought last night. Gives Libby a team and will be leader of the opposition.
Nationals have picked up 4 seats they might yet pick up another 1 or 2. So all up if they form a coalition/alliance whatever they are going to call it they need to band together and form a formidable opposition. They could end up with 10 or 11 seats combined.
Loving this result. If anything, the Libs have gone backwards, and can’t find a forward gear.
Far to many rusted on old Bozos.
A massive swing agaisnt Labor, whic was expected, yet the Greens and One natiion and Indies, got more of the swing than the Libs.
Very much on the nose.
Yes, one could ask - where to for the liberals? They were expecting to win at least 10 seats. (At the time of writing) only 5 have been secured. The swing away from labor not entirely went the liberals way. Nationals, Greens, One nation etc secured more of the swing. Although labors buffer is still quite comfortable. Going to be difficult to see how the coalition can be a credible opposition? Changing the liberal leadership is not really the answer, because there is no-one. Maybe Thomas, although he may not be interested? I think Mettam has tried best she can. Wait for the after election dust to settle and build a reliable, trustworthy and honest team around her would be a good start. It will be a difficult task for the party. They could possibly be looking at another huge loss next state election.
People dislike labor ( hence the swing) BUT dislike the liberals more.
I am not sure the Libs can lay much blame at Mettam’s feet. They are an ineffective opposition not just due to the lack of seats but mainly due to their propensity for being destructive rather than opposing with constructive commentary. Folk do not get a sense of what they stand for, what positives they can present and the alternative views.
The left ran a character-based campaign around the nostril for a lot of theirs and it does nothing to help those undecided voters.
The future for the Libs is with Mettam’s and a loose coalition with the nationals but they need to base their presentations on what they would do different, what they think is a good idea but with their fingerprints.
[quote=“royallucky post=241025 userid=2921”]It got heated on the TV panel between Carey and Snozzleopilas,which I thought was quite entertaining.
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Ha ha good ol baz. I was standing in front of him and his loud retarded joondy mates a few years back. Yep he’s one of the boys
Recon Libby will step down.
Snozzleopilas will love to take on the top job,lol
[quote=“gtrxuone post=241039 userid=2215”]Recon Libby will step down.
Snozzleopilas will love to take on the top job,lol
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As tough a jobb as it will be and the limited stock of credible people, surely they would not offer it to Nasal.
He is only high profile because of his affiliation with Stokes.And also the Libs are much in debt to Stokes and Rinehart.They have run a long campaign for the Libs through PerthNow and The Nightly.As they are also doing with the Lieberals and Notionals Nation wide.
The Libs should have plenty of cash in the coffers for the next election.But even looking into the future that far, will they even be able to gather any credible people to run.
I thought that Saffiotti ran rings around the Liberal bloke on the ABC lastr night.
Nothing to see here, easy win for cooked with his massive covid cushion.
Some huge swings away from ALP but made little impact seat wise, libs and nats picking up a few here and there, Nedlands, Churchlands, Carine, did Ok in the regions.
Libs hung on in Cottesloe despite a massive teal campaign.
Brewer is my tip for a future Lib leader, can also see a LNP party formed.
Looks like the ALP got a scare in Fremantle with a teal independent climate 200 getting close.
Apart from that its business as usual for 4 more cooked years, but with the greens with balance of power, not exciting stuff.
[quote=“Grump post=241036 userid=855”]I am not sure the Libs can lay much blame at Mettam’s feet. They are an ineffective opposition not just due to the lack of seats but mainly due to their propensity for being destructive rather than opposing with constructive commentary. Folk do not get a sense of what they stand for, what positives they can present and the alternative views.
The left ran a character-based campaign around the nostril for a lot of theirs and it does nothing to help those undecided voters.
The future for the Libs is with Mettam’s and a loose coalition with the nationals but they need to base their presentations on what they would do different, what they think is a good idea but with their fingerprints.
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Yeah true, cannot blame Mettam, it was difficult to really lay a big punch as they didnt have numbers in parliament and as you say the point of difference was not really there, hospital ramping and some law and order issues but apart from labor fatigue there wasn’t much difference, state labor run a pro mining pro development centrist style government not much to differentiate so not many baseball bats waiting. Some waste on metromess lack of regional infrastructure, suburban high rise probably could of been amped up I guess. At any rate some big alp margins have been eroded.
[quote=“BC post=241020 userid=892”]Latest call from Antony Green is that Basil will get up but more importantly, that moll McGurk looks like getting rolled in my electorate which is a good thing for Freo generally.
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Not if you look at Hullet - shes, a greens funded by climate 200 a lot more nutty than whats there at the moment tbh, at any rate she will sit there for four years totally ignored and irrelevant in a alp dominated house, freo will be worse off.