If you start sacking an individual for DV, then you must do the same for all violence against any individual, man or woman otherwise you devalue the assault against another bloke. I agree, I personally think violence against a female is abhorrent and cowardly, like the coward punch issue that has caused so much trouble in our community that almost always involves young men, so it’s important that the WAFC look at this with clear eyes and don’t get swayed by media pressure and pressure from certain self interest groups to make a knee jerk decision.
Second chances? yes in most cases I would agree, if the individual shows genuine remorse and is committed to rehabilitation. But do it twice and you are banned for life.
Southerner, Rudy didn’t have the dollars that The “AFL” lad had to hire the very best Lawyer/Barrister/QC. Sadly in so many cases, it’s money that buys better court outcomes.
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That’s rubbish SS. Taylor was a first year player would have been on 60 - 80k max and was suspended for 10 matches by Sydney so never played another game after the Covid hub breach. And Rudy I think already had a spent conviction from a previous DV charge and the Aboriginal Legal Service would have come to his aid.
Rookie gets a base of $85k + $5k/game
First year player taken in the full draft is on a base of $105k + $5k/game.
I’m pretty sure Rudy wasn’t on anything like that from his employer + Joondy, but yes, it was a second offence which makes a significant difference.
On the ump’s analysis, as far as I can work out, you won’t be allowed to go to games even as a spectator if done for DV. I know let’s put them all on a boat and send them to…oops did that one like 200 years ago. I know why don’t we make all crims wear an orange traffic cone on their heads at all times. Yes that is solid forward thinking. Ostracise them, kick em when they’re down.
Two things, one being the AFL’s decision on Taylor which is a fairly stern penalty (but not undeserved in my opinion) and perhaps a kneejerk reaction to recent issues in the ACT, the second being the small article in the worst a week or so ago suggesting that the WAFC and WAFL will be looking at having specific sanctions for instances of DV.
[quote=“Grump post=201820”]Two things, one being the AFL’s decision on Taylor which is a fairly stern penalty (but not undeserved in my opinion) and perhaps a kneejerk reaction to recent issues in the ACT, the second being the small article in the worst a week or so ago suggesting that the WAFC and WAFL will be looking at having specific sanctions for instances of DV.
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I heard the AFL have told Taylor he won’t be able to play WAFL until June after he has completed anger management courses. Does that mean if he wanted to start an apprenticeship he wouldn’t be allowed until to start until June for the same reasons? As usual it’s all about the look for the AFL and minority groups have the loudest voice.
What about Rudy Riddoch? Has the AFL intervened with his intention to play in the WAFL after being released from jail after a second domestic violence conviction? Or perhaps he already completed his anger management courses as part of his bail conditions? But if a player is still serving bail he definitely should not be allowed to play football at any level.
It should be noted the AFL has banned Taylor from entering the AFL mid season draft, that doesn’t mean he can’t play WAFL but as I said I heard he has been told he can’t play WAFL until he has completed anger management courses.
I heard the AFL have told Taylor he won’t be able to play WAFL until June after he has completed anger management courses. Does that mean if he wanted to start an apprenticeship he wouldn’t be allowed until to start until June for the same reasons? As usual it’s all about the look for the AFL and minority groups have the loudest voice.
What about Rudy Riddoch? Has the AFL intervened with his intention to play in the WAFL after being released from jail after a second domestic violence conviction? Or perhaps he already completed his anger management courses as part of his bail conditions? But if a player is still serving bail he definitely should not be allowed to play football at any level.
It should be noted the AFL has banned Taylor from entering the AFL mid season draft, that doesn’t mean he can’t play WAFL but as I said I heard he has been told he can’t play WAFL until he has completed anger management courses.
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The AFL should be told to stick their collective noses out.
Unfortunately no one tells the AFL what to do swannie. They tell the collective football world what to do.
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We may not agree on much but I doubt whether there would be anyone who would disagree with that sentiment. I would add the WAFL is the poorer for that.
This is a watershed day swannie, we agree on something. While I am a supporter of West Coast in the AFL, just imagine what a WAFL competition we would have if we were able to go our own way. We would be the envy of all the state leagues.
Without speaking to the merits of whether the player should be allowed to participate or not, on what basis at law could the AFL decree the nonsense that the player is ineligible to play in any state or community league until June 1 but can play ressies on May 15?
When a Victorian comp team delists a player he is not the property of that comp he reverts back to the state league club of origin - now as of 90 minutes ago Elijah Taylor was fined $5000.00 in a WA court for his indiscretion
How the fuck can some Victorian arsehole decide he cannot play in another league when it has no business of theirs because he is not their player any longer???
Perth need to hire a beagle and seriously challenge this one even if it is just out of principle - and the WAFC needs to tell the Victorian arse to butt out of it because of the delisting that has occurred
Can’t play until June ??? Fucking piss off you inconsistent idiots it’s none of your business
[quote=“Southerner post=201987”]When a Victorian comp team delists a player he is not the property of that comp he reverts back to the state league club of origin - now as of 90 minutes ago Elijah Taylor was fined $5000.00 in a WA court for his indiscretion
How the fuck can some Victorian arsehole decide he cannot play in another league when it has no business of theirs because he is not their player any longer???
Perth need to hire a beagle and seriously challenge this one even if it is just out of principle - and the WAFC needs to tell the Victorian arse to butt out of it because of the delisting that has occurred
Can’t play until June ??? Fucking piss off you inconsistent idiots it’s none of your business
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Very colourfully articulated Southerner; notwithstanding that he actually is a Croweater, I am very much in synch with the sentiments.
Well …there you go. Let’s not have the facts get in the way of a good story. From The West…
The WAFC made it clear on Friday night that Taylor remained eligible to play in the WAFL and that the AFL did not have the power to prevent a player appearing in the competition.
“Under the current WAFL rules and regulations, Elijah Taylor would be eligible to participate in the WAFL competition,” the WAFC said.
“Our understanding is that Taylor will not make himself available for the WAFL.”
It is understood that Taylor has agreed not to play for the first two months of the season as part of a negotiated outcome to remain eligible for the AFL national draft.
He will not be eligible for the mid-season draft under the AFL sanctions but can play reserves for Perth from May 15.
[quote=“BC post=201998”]Well …there you go. Let’s not have the facts get in the way of a good story. From The West…
The WAFC made it clear on Friday night that Taylor remained eligible to play in the WAFL and that the AFL did not have the power to prevent a player appearing in the competition.
“Under the current WAFL rules and regulations, Elijah Taylor would be eligible to participate in the WAFL competition,” the WAFC said.
“Our understanding is that Taylor will not make himself available for the WAFL.”
It is understood that Taylor has agreed not to play for the first two months of the season as part of a negotiated outcome to remain eligible for the AFL national draft.
He will not be eligible for the mid-season draft under the AFL sanctions but can play reserves for Perth from May 15.
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I have an opera house and bridge combination for sale.
Thought the AFL had a right to decide who does and doesn’t play in their comp, same as the WAFL…not sure what the issue is here…The AFL have banned Taylor from playing in their comp for 12 months, whilst the WAFL have banned Taylor till May…since the indiscretion happened whilst Taylor was an AFL player, then kudos to them for taking a stance on DV.
Taylor wasn’t a WAFL player at the time of his indiscretion, so kudos to the WAFL for seeing the importance on giving the young fella a second chance to get his life back on track…what’s the issue here? Besides the usual Victorian red mist histrionics.